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MCCM
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How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

 
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Rochelley
Level 8

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

Hello @MCCM ,

 

I believe to accomplish the outcome you want, you will have to use an hourly payroll item for this employee rather than a salary.  I haven't tested this out in QBO yet, but in QB Desktop, when a person's time is entered with a salary, you can't change or manipulate that.  You cannot split the salary up.  It is recognized as one amount for the entire pay period.

 

I would try converting the salary to an hourly rate, i.e. Annual Salary $50K divided by 2080 hours = $24.03846 (not sure how many decimals QBO accepts).  Begin entering time for this employee using the hourly item you have added to his profile.  Enter only as many hours to each project as you want using several lines on the timecard.

 

Now you should see the division of time to projects that you want to see.

 

Just as an aside, for this reason I only ever use hourly pay items for everyone in my organization, even though some of them are considered to be "salary".  QB can be very messy with salaries and you just don't get the control you need in certain situations.  I'm not sure about the province you're in, but in my province, salary really means nothing.  If there is ever a wage dispute filed by an employee, the employment standards board figures it all out by the hour, and in most cases the wage dispute is about the employee not ever having received any overtime for the OT hours, and 99 times out of 100, the employer is forced to pay back wages.  In my province, many employers erroneously believe that if they pay someone a "salary", they won't ever have to pay them overtime.  That is false.  Unless the person is very high up in the company and has similar or the same decision making capabilities of the owner, every worker must be paid overtime, whether you think they're on a "salary" or not.  Rather than go down that road, as I mentioned before, I enter all my time as hourly.  Period.

 

Hope this helps somewhat.

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Rochelley
Level 8

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

Hi @MCCM ,

 

Projects are simply a way of classifying information for reporting purposes.  If you want to see some reporting that allocates a portion to Projects and another portion to Office Expenses, you would have to enter the time that way in your weekly timesheet.  For example, if John Doe is working 8 hours a day, but you only want 60% to be allocated to Projects, and 40% to be allocated to Office Expenses, you would have to create another project called Office Expenses.  You would create one line on the weekly timesheet with the Project name, and only 4.8 hours each day (assuming 8 hour days).  You would create a second line indicating the Office Expense project, and allocate the remaining 3.2 hours to that project.

Time allocated to two projects.PNG

 

You can then pull a report on both projects.  But to be clear, this does not affect your G/L reporting.  The amount you have allocated to a project called 'Office Expenses' will not go to the account called 'Office Expenses' on your G/L, but rather it will be posted to 'Salaries' as it should be.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

JamesM
QuickBooks Team

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

Hi there,

 

Making sure you're recording your transactions the right way is a good exercise for preventing errors in your books. 

 

I recommend contacting an accounting professional to get more info on this. If you're not in contact with one, I encourage you to search for one on our website using this link here. Doing this will help prevent any future discrepancies. Let me know if you have other questions. I'm here to help.

 

In the meantime, check out this helpful article related to Projects in QuickBooks: Track income, costs, and profitability by project.

MCCM
Level 2

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

Thank you for your detailed response. What we are having concern with is that the entire pay cheque amount is showing up as an expense on the project even though only a portion of the expense is allocated to the project in the weekly time sheet. If for instance, no costs are allocated to a project in any given pay period, then the entire salary pay cost is transferred as an expense to the company. Why is the balance of the salary cost not transferred as an expense to the company when only a portion of the salary cost is allocated to a project. The labour costs represented in the project module are not accurate which is why we believe we are entering the weekly time sheets incorrectly. The only Labour Type option for entering time for a salaried employee is through 'Salary' on the drop down menu but the entire pay amount is being allocated to the project. Also, going back into the weekly time sheets and editing the time entries for a project does not change the labour costs for  a project on the summary project page.

Any help is appreciated.

Rochelley
Level 8

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

Hello @MCCM ,

 

I believe to accomplish the outcome you want, you will have to use an hourly payroll item for this employee rather than a salary.  I haven't tested this out in QBO yet, but in QB Desktop, when a person's time is entered with a salary, you can't change or manipulate that.  You cannot split the salary up.  It is recognized as one amount for the entire pay period.

 

I would try converting the salary to an hourly rate, i.e. Annual Salary $50K divided by 2080 hours = $24.03846 (not sure how many decimals QBO accepts).  Begin entering time for this employee using the hourly item you have added to his profile.  Enter only as many hours to each project as you want using several lines on the timecard.

 

Now you should see the division of time to projects that you want to see.

 

Just as an aside, for this reason I only ever use hourly pay items for everyone in my organization, even though some of them are considered to be "salary".  QB can be very messy with salaries and you just don't get the control you need in certain situations.  I'm not sure about the province you're in, but in my province, salary really means nothing.  If there is ever a wage dispute filed by an employee, the employment standards board figures it all out by the hour, and in most cases the wage dispute is about the employee not ever having received any overtime for the OT hours, and 99 times out of 100, the employer is forced to pay back wages.  In my province, many employers erroneously believe that if they pay someone a "salary", they won't ever have to pay them overtime.  That is false.  Unless the person is very high up in the company and has similar or the same decision making capabilities of the owner, every worker must be paid overtime, whether you think they're on a "salary" or not.  Rather than go down that road, as I mentioned before, I enter all my time as hourly.  Period.

 

Hope this helps somewhat.

LPSOLU
Level 1

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

You are having this issue likely because you are entering the time activity after running payroll. If this is the case, to get the proper results, enter the time activity first, then run payroll. The payroll expense is split based on timesheet, which is entered in hours per day with no regard to salaried or hourly pay item.

Tim Taylor TGA
Level 1

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

How do you balance the total cost of payroll compared to the rate and hours worked? When you have a fixed paycheque net, in my case for the owner but they want to see hours worked and a particular rate

Amanda-B
QuickBooks Team

How do I allocate a portion of salary costs to a project and the balance as an office expense? Entire salary cost appears in project when using weekly time sheet.

Hi there Tim,

 

Thank you for reaching out here. It's important that you are able to balance the cost of payroll and hours worked so that your employees are paid correctly. QuickBooks Online Payroll is a great tool to use, it helps get your employees paid on time for the hours they've worked. I can provide some information about comparing the hours worked, rates and payroll cost.

 

If your employees are on a fixed salary for either the week, the month or the year, there won't be any hourly wage associated with the payroll. If you'd like to see an hourly rate for the employees that are set up with a salary, I recommend leaving feedback by navigating to Gear icon and selecting the Feedback option. These comments are considered by our engineers when they develop new features for QuickBooks.

 

If you have any other questions, feel free to reach out here. 

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