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Can someone help with how I record dividends paid to directors in the UK (quickbooks online)?

Can someone help with how I record dividends paid to directors in the UK (quickbooks online)? I'm not an accountant and there is a lot of posts out there that confuse me.   

Here is the scenario - 

My company recently declared a dividend payment of £20,000 to both shareholders (all the paperwork, vouchers and meetings were correctly followed). I made the relevant payments from the bank to the shareholders. Now I need to recognise this in quickbooks.

Quickbooks online brought in the new transactions automatically under the Banking section. I now have to categorise them. How do I do that? Is it an Expense, I am not sure. I always thought dividend were payments out of profit. How do I record this? If possible, can you spell out the sequence and exactly how I should record it (sorry for my ignorance)
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Level 3

Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of the Equity group of accounts).

Level 1

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

I have just spent 3 hours with QB support and they do not seem to understand this concept.  Paying dividends is a basic company action. Why does a company who creates an accounting package for businesses NOT understand this and create an action for it. It really does beggar belief.

 

The user above asked for step by step instructions. All they got as a response was "pay it out of retained earnings" but no one can explain how. 

 

So the question is, how do you pay it out of retained earnings and please don't say "write a cheque" if that is the answer please explain who you write the cheque to in order to pay the money out without it looking like a purchase on your P&O .

 

Thank you..

Level 1

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

Hi, I am very new to Quick books BUT if you look you will find that there is a way of accounting for dividends as retained earnings.

 

You may need to undo the way that you accounted for it - well thats the way that I did it.

 

Re enter as a transfer and retained earnings from equity. This will then show up on your cashflow report as a reduction in retained profit.

 

Looks ok to me , but of course I might be wrong !

HRB
Level 1

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

 
I selected 'transfer' then 'retained earnings in Equity'.  I then put a memo in saying who the dividend was for  
 
 
 
Level 1

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

I don't have my bank linked up to QB yet, does anyone know where I can enter the dividend payments please as I don't have a "transfer" option?

QuickBooks Team

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...


Hello KimCot,

 

You can create a transfer manually by going to the plus icon > Transfer. Here you can select your bank account under 'transfer from' and retained earnings under 'transfer to'.

 

Thanks,

 

Talia

Level 3

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

Much easier to use dividends as an other expense account rather than dividends as an equity account, this way it will clear down to the retained earnings account at the start or a new year.
Level 1

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

Absolutely agree with you, QB assistant I used to ask for help is lack of accounting knowledge, I even let her remote my desktop, and when I saw she tried to make dummy entries I noticed she needs more training. She doesn't know PST self-assess concept, tax code, etc.

QB doesn't have dividend accounts bot both dividend we receive and dividend we pay to shareholders, it only can say QB seems more suitable for very simple business like proprietorship. Hope they can improve, but for bigger cooperation, it is really not recommended to use it. Sorry


@AB33 wrote:

I have just spent 3 hours with QB support and they do not seem to understand this concept.  Paying dividends is a basic company action. Why does a company who creates an accounting package for businesses NOT understand this and create an action for it. It really does beggar belief.

 

The user above asked for step by step instructions. All they got as a response was "pay it out of retained earnings" but no one can explain how. 

 

So the question is, how do you pay it out of retained earnings and please don't say "write a cheque" if that is the answer please explain who you write the cheque to in order to pay the money out without it looking like a purchase on your P&O .

 

Thank you..


 

Level 1

Re: Dividends should be charged to Retained Earnings (part of...

Hi Paul, I'm 99.9% sure that using an expense account at any time when working with Dividends is a no no.

The reason being is that Expense accounts hit the P&L and dividends are Balance Sheet Accounts.

We found this out by error, using the stock Dividend Account which is in the Accounts List when we started using QB online.

 

Our workflow is:

Board Meeting, Meeting Minutes created, Tax Vouchers Issued, Journal Entries in QB for Current Liabilities, Paid from Retained Earnings (Previous all tax paid up profits). You MUST be in profit to issue a dividend by tax law. You can't borrow to pay dividends.

 

We create a 2 line Journal Entry from the Add button at the top of the screen and just sit back, patting ourselves on the back at how awesome we are.

 

When we pay the dividend on the declared date, we reconcile the bank transaction to the dividend liability account.

 

If it's our half year dividend distribution, we add a Journal Entry to add funds to the Corporation Tax Liability Account until year end, as well, for the dividend distribution amount only. Eg if we're paying out £1000 of £8000 half year profit, we save 19% of the £1000 distribution only, in case we eat the rest of the profit in expenditure in H2 of the year.

 

At year end, we assign corporation tax balance payment to the Corporation Tax Liability Account, and put the balance of any Profit in to the retained earnings account, then repeat the meeting, documentation, QB entries and Distribution steps above.

 

Don't forget to add the dividend income to your Self Assessment return and pay the 7.5% tax (or higher if you're minted) if you reach the PAYE allowance plus £2000 Dividend allowance total income threshold for the year.

 

I am more than happy for some accounting genius to pick holes in my approach and feedback.

 

Cheers,

Paul.