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Buy nowI have an LLC, let's call it LLC-A, which is a member of another LLC, let's call that one LLC-B. Both are multi-member LLCs. LLC-A receives a K-1 from LLC-B.
LLC-A periodically receives share income from LLC-B (which is booked against retained earnings in LLC-B). I'm clear on how LLC-B accounts for these payments, but what I'm not so clear on is how LLC-A characterizes these payments. In the past I have put them into an income account in LLC-A.
This has worked out well enough. My concern is that LLC-A has not been tracking the retained earnings in LLC-B, basically the capital account of LLC-A in LLC-B does not appear on the books of LLC-A.
How should I track LLC-A's capital account at LLC-B within LLC-A's book? An asset account? If so, which type? And how is the additional asset resolved on the balance sheet?
I am using QB Desktop Pro Plus.
Thanks in advance,
Lori
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LLC-A should have an Other Asset account called 'Investment in LLC-B'. Income received by LLC-A from LLC-B should be booked to an Other Income account called 'Investment in LLC-B Revenue'. LLC-A should not have the R/E of LLC-B on its books.
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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LLC-A should have an Other Asset account called 'Investment in LLC-B'. Income received by LLC-A from LLC-B should be booked to an Other Income account called 'Investment in LLC-B Revenue'. LLC-A should not have the R/E of LLC-B on its books.
Thank You!
How do I get/track amounts into the LLC-A/Investment in LLC-B other asset account? I'm thinking that this is the value in the R/E account of LLC-A, yes?
The 'Investment in LLC-B' other asset account reflects the investment made by LLC-A in LLC-B. LLC-A had to invest something in LLC-B for this account to exist. For example, if LLC-A made an initial cash investment of $50K in LLC-B, then the Investment in LLC-B should have started with a balance of $50K. That $50K is the basis of your investment in LLC-B. Nothing increases that balance unless LLC-A invests more into LLC-B, or if LLC-B doesn't distribute its profits to LLC-A. In both cases, the balance will increase in Investment in LLC-B with the offset to Investment in LLC-B Revenue. Investment in LLC-B other asset will decrease if you sell a portion of your interest in LLC-B or if LLC-B has a loss.
If LLC-A didn't contribute anything to LLC-B, then the Investment in LLC-B other asset account shouldn't exist.
When LLC-A receives its share of income from LLC-B, that is booked as cash, with the offset being the Investment in LLC-B revenue account. That has no impact on the Investment in LLC-B other asset account.
R/E is indirectly related to the Investment in LLC-B other asset account. R/E of LLC-B decreases as a result of the payment made to LLC-A, and Revenue from Investment in LLC-B increases R/E of LLC-A, but only because those payments decrease/increase net income for the respective LLC, which QB automatically closes to R/E at year-end.
"Nothing increases that balance unless LLC-A invests more into LLC-B, or if LLC-B doesn't distribute its profits to LLC-A. In both cases, the balance will increase in Investment in LLC-B with the offset to Investment in LLC-B Revenue."
CORRECTION: The offset is to Investment in LLC-B Revenue only if the profits aren't distributed. If LLC-A invests more in LLC-B, then the offset is the Investment in LLC-B other asset account, thereby increasing the balance. Sorry about that.
OK, so if LLC-B holds R/E for LLC-A (because not all revenue share due to LLC-A has been distributed) it will be reflected only as a balance on LLC-B's accounts and not in any account of LLC-A, correct?
If so, then frankly that seems a bit odd to me. Let's say that LLC-A's rev. share from -B was 50k for a given year but only paid out 30k leaving 20k. That 20k would not appear anywhere on -A's balance sheet and someone reviewing that would not get a full picture of the value of LLC-A as a whole entity.
Thanks for your help!
"Let's say that LLC-A's rev. share from -B was 50k for a given year but only paid out 30k leaving 20k. That 20k would not appear anywhere on -A's balance sheet and someone reviewing that would not get a full picture of the value of LLC-A as a whole entity."
I did mention in a previous post that "Nothing increases that balance unless LLC-A invests more into LLC-B, or if LLC-B doesn't distribute its profits to LLC-A. In both cases, the balance will increase in Investment in LLC-B with the offset to Investment in LLC-B Revenue."
So, if A's share of B's profits is $50K, but only $30K is paid in cash, the remaining $20K increases the 'Investment in LLC-B' other asset account. The journal entry looks like this:
| Dr | Cr | |
| Cash | 30,000 | |
| Investment in LLC-B (other asset) | 20,000 | |
| Investment in LLC-B Revenue | 50,000 |
Hope that helps.
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