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TRHBSI
Level 1

Vehicle Trade in with 179 depreciation.

After looking for a long time and not finding exactly what I needed, I figured it out and wanted to make a post to help anyone else. I have an accountant who actually does this for me when I file taxes, but my quickbooks was a mess because I didn't categorize these correctly originally.

 

YOU CAN ONLY TAKE A 179 OR MULTI YEAR DEPRECIATION, NOT BOTH.

 

I'll use whole numbers for simplicity.

 

I bought a truck in 2022 with a loan for $50,000

 

AccountDebitCredit
Truck 1 Asset50,000 
Truck 1 Loan 50,000

 

Then I used the 179 Deduction under vehicle expenses. This will show up on your P&L Vehicle expenses.

 

(S-Corperations take note if you take Shareholder distributions higher than the 179 deductions, they will appear on your personal tax returns as capitol gains at a rate of 15% in taxes)

 

AccountDebitCredit
Truck 1 Asset 50,000
Vehicle Expenses: 179 Deduction50,000 

 

Two years pass and I decide I need a bigger truck, I've now paid it half off, but its worth more so the trade in has positive equity. Truck Asset 1 sits at 0 value on the balance sheet because it was fully depreciated on the year of purchase. 

 

Truck 1 Remaining Loan: 25,000

Trade in Value: 30,000

Truck 2 Price: 65,000

 

First you need to journal entry the purchase of the new truck.

 

AccountDebitCredit
Truck 2 Loan 65,000
Truck 2 Asset65,000 

 

Then again write off the whole truck with the 179 Deduction.

 

AccountDebitCredit
Truck 2 Asset 65,000
Vehicle Expenses: 179 Deduction65,000 

 

Now you must treat the trade in as an asset sale, which it is and will be added to your profit for the year, so plan on taxes on this amount. You must debit the Truck 1 Loan to zero it out and also debit the new Truck 2 Loan the equity of the trade in.

 

AccountDebitCredit
Truck 1 Loan25,000 
Truck 2 Loan5,000 
Sale of an Asset 30,000

 

I paid Truck 2 Loan completely before the end of the calendar year so I could enjoy the full write off. 

 

This should zero out your balance sheet.

 

Truck 1 Asset: 0

Truck 2 Asset: 0

Truck 1 Loan: 0

Truck 2 Loan: 0  (or what ever balance you now have left.)

 

Your P&L report should now reflect this as:

 

Other Income: Sale of an Asset 30,000

 

Vehicle Expenses: 179 Depreciation 65,000

 

Hope this helps!! 

 

As always, if you're not sure, consult an accountant

 

*I am not a tax professional or financial advisor, these are simply my findings on this software.

 

3 Comments 3
Rainflurry
Level 14

Vehicle Trade in with 179 depreciation.

@TRHBSI 

 

Glad you figured it out.  Unfortunately, your post has some inaccuracies. 

 

First, you don't need to pay off Truck2 to take the full Section 179 expense.  Section 179 is available regardless if the qualifying asset is paid in full or financed.   

 

Second, the offsetting credit entry to the Section 179 Expense is to Accumulated Depreciation, not the Truck1 and Truck2's fixed asset account.  You still own Truck2 so it should be listed on your balance sheet at its historical cost of $65K with a corresponding amount booked to Accumulated Depreciation.  This is GAAP.    

 

These are the proper journal entries for your situation:

 

Purchase of Truck1:

 DebitCredit
Truck1 Fixed Asset50,000 
   Truck1 Loan Payable 50,000

  

Section 179 Deduction (credit is to Accumulated Depreciation, not the Truck1 Fixed Asset account):

 

 DebitCredit
Sec. 179 Expense50,000 
   Accumulated Depreciation  50,000

 

Trade in of Truck1, purchase of Truck2 (with $30K trade-in applied to Truck2):

 DebitCredit
Truck2 Fixed Asset65,000 
Truck1 Loan Payable (to close)25,000 
Accumulated Depreciation 50,000 
   Truck1 Fixed Asset (to close) 50,000
   Truck 2 Loan 60,000
   Gain on Sale of Truck1 30,000

 

 

TRHBSI
Level 1

Vehicle Trade in with 179 depreciation.

You do not use accumulated depreciation for 179, it is one and only the first year depreciation. 

 

Rainflurry
Level 14

Vehicle Trade in with 179 depreciation.

@TRHBSI 

 

That's incorrect.  I'm well aware of what Section 179 is (working on my CPA license now).  You don't remove the fixed asset from your books as you suggested.  If you disagree, see the link below with guidance from an actual CPA.

 

https://www.accountantforums.com/threads/section-179-accounting.168776/ 

 

 

 

 

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