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maha1
Level 4

rrsp rollover

Client passed away in 2018. T4RSP slip was received for unmatured RRSP.

Said RRSP was rolled over to spouse in 2021, upon maturity.

Would appreciate some help in how to treat the 2 events. My understanding is a request can be made to CRA to adjust client’s 2018 return for the maximum required to reduce taxes to nil, include the same amount as RRSP withdrawal in spouse’s 2021 return, and offset with the rollover receipt. Can anyone confirm? Thank You.

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maha1
Level 4

rrsp rollover

the updated document is rc4177-21e. line 2 is zero because there's nothing left in the annuitant's rrsp account. yes, earnings in between are shown on t4rsp slips issued to the spouse. i spoke to cra yesterday and, of course, they asked me to write a letter! thanks for your help...

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jrbooks
Level 3

rrsp rollover

It is unfortunate that this rollover didn't occur in 2018 or 2019.  It would have been much simpler then, and there was no need to wait unless there were probate issues.

In 2018, you were dealing with "Refund of Premium".  Under those rules, the amount the spouse was entitled to from the RRSP was to be included in his/her income (if not entitled to the whole amount, the remainder would stay on the deceased's final return) with the spouse transferring the amount to own RRSP or RRIF and taking the corresponding deduction. 

Because that election was not made, presumably the T4RSP "refund of premium" landed on the final return and taxes were paid  It is my understanding that the RRSP is considered to have been cashed out at that time, so am not certain how it could have kept its status until it was converted to a RRIF.  Generally, in order for the survivor to get the benefit, it has to be a direct transfer within a certain time frame.  However, I have found this citation (from CI Assante Wealth Management).

  

If the spouse is designated as the beneficiary in the plan document

 

The position of Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) is that if Terry is the sole beneficiary in the RRSP contract and the full amount of that RRSP is directly transferred to Terry’s RRSP or RRIF (or used to buy an eligible annuity) by December 31st of the year following Pat’s death, then the value of the RRSP would be included in Terry’s tax return for the year of the transfer, not in Pat’s final return. Terry could then claim a corresponding special deduction, so no taxes would be payable.

 

If the specific criteria of CRA’s position are not met, then Pat’s executors have to include the value of the RRSP in Pat’s final return. However, Pat’s executors could decide to claim a deduction on Pat’s final return up to the RRSP amounts actually paid to Terry. That amount would then be taxable to Terry in the year the payments were made. To reduce the resulting taxes, Terry could make special RRSP/RRIF contributions, provided they are made in the year of a payment from Pat’s RRSP or within the first 60 days of the next calendar year.

 

Even if the spouse is not designated as the beneficiary, there is still a way to make the transfer (from the same source):

 

Nonetheless, if Terry is a beneficiary under Pat’s will, an opportunity exists to achieve a tax-deferred transfer of Pat’s RRSP:

  1. Pat’s executors must file a joint election with Terry designating an amount of Pat’s RRSP to be taxed on Terry’s return for the year the funds were paid to Pat’s estate, rather than on Pat’s final return.
     
  2. To get a deduction against the income inclusion stemming from the joint election, Terry could make the special RRSP/RRIF contribution, provided it is made in either the year of the RRSP payment to the estate or the first 60 days of the next calendar year.

 

However, there seems to be a definite time limit as to when the transfer has to be made to the survivor spouse and when said spouse has to have purchased his/her own RRSP/RRIF.  The inference is that the RRSP has indeed been collapsed at date of death and the "refund of premiums" has to happen rather quickly if the tax deferral is to happen.

In your circumstances, I would seek specialist help.  You might try the manager of the RRSP but be wary; my experience with those people is that they're really good a promoting RRSPs and not so good and understanding the rules surrounding same.

Hope this helps.

Jo H Ruelle  CPB

maha1
Level 4

rrsp rollover

thank you. my understanding is that an unmatured rrsp can be transferred on maturity, even if it's a few years later....

jrbooks
Level 3

rrsp rollover

Maha - can you find a citation for that?  I haven't been able to find anything that didn't give a fairly strict timeline for the transfer, particularly for unmatured RRSPs, and would be most appreciative if I could find otherwise.

 

Thanx.

 

Jo

maha1
Level 4

rrsp rollover

Rv4-6-2010-eng

search for this. see example on page 4. annuitant dies in 2008, distribution of unmatured rrsp to spouse in 2010.

jrbooks
Level 3

rrsp rollover

Thanks for the link, Maha.  That's a great example, and the table on page one is exceptionally revealing.  My concern would be that the rules have been subsequently tightened up with respect to timing of the transfer.  I also wonder about the example, as it shows only change in value and no income earned with the RRSP, which I think is unlikely.  However, it is no doubt done that way for simplicity; sadly, I rather doubt that's how the slips have fallen out in real life and - somewhere - there's been a T4RSP showing income for at least 2020 and possibly 2019 as well.

As page two of your paper makes clear, life is so much simpler if the transfer can be made by December 31st of the year following death.  However, think you are looking at something like that example.  So you're going to have to play with Chart 2 and, unfortunately, they don't show where the figures come from (in particular, I don't understand why line 2 is zero).  It will depend on the relative positions of deceased and spouse as to how much is to be transferred from final return to spouse.  As the RRSP was essentially deemed collapsed as of the date of death, and its value reported on the deceased's final return, it will probably be beneficial to make the transfer.  As I read the paper, nothing is reported on the spouse's return until the year of transfer when whatever is on the T4RSP for the spouse lands on the return, and you make the Chart 2 calculation.  If it is beneficial to make a transfer, you add the amount on the spouse's return for 2021 and send the letter requesting the change on the deceased's 2018 return to CRA.  I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the refund, though.

Hope this helps.

Jo

maha1
Level 4

rrsp rollover

the updated document is rc4177-21e. line 2 is zero because there's nothing left in the annuitant's rrsp account. yes, earnings in between are shown on t4rsp slips issued to the spouse. i spoke to cra yesterday and, of course, they asked me to write a letter! thanks for your help...