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kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

I thought the Canada Training Credit accumulated each year, but the amount on my client's NOA from 2020 says the total is $250?  She has never used it, so I don't understand why it isn't $750 (or $1,000) depending on when it is calculated.  Can someone explain it to me please?

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Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

Not everyone is eligible for the CTC. And for 2021, the maximum is $500, as it started in 2020 ($250 for 2020 and $250 for 2021):

 

The 2019 Federal Budget announced the Canada training credit (CTC) which started in 2020. Individuals can accumulate $250 towards their Canada training credit limit each year if, in the preceding year, they met all eligibility conditions. An individual’s Canada training credit limit for a year represents the maximum credit they can claim in that year, and will be reduced in the subsequent year by the amount of any CTC claimed. Eligibility conditions include a minimum working income threshold and a maximum net income threshold in respect of the preceding year. For example, the accumulation of a $250 Canada training credit limit for 2020 was dependent on income in 2019; for 2020 the minimum working income threshold of $10,000 and the maximum net income threshold (the amount at which the 29% tax bracket begins for the 2019 year – $147,667) was applied to a taxpayer’s income earned in 2019.

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kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Thank you so much for the detailed information.  I think it makes sense now.  The key word for me is "Working" income, not RRSP, RRIF, Dividends, CERB, etc.  And I'm assuming that "working income" will include the net income from self-employment, correct?

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Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

"Working Income" is defined for purposes of the CWB under subsection 122.7(1) (while including amounts that are exempt from tax under paragraph 81(1)(a) or subsection 81(4)).

 

Also federal employment insurance maternity or parental benefits are counted towards the income limit as well as Quebec provincial parental benefits that are otherwise exempt from tax under paragraph 81(1)(a).

 

Since the CRA calculates the limit, I don't think I'm going to bother checking the correctness of their calculations.

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Stevie1
Level 3
Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

Cindy: This is the book: https://shop.wolterskluwer.ca/en/preparing-your-income-tax-returns.html. The book covers everything-personal taxes, business taxes (not corporations), rental income, immigrants, emigrants, etc. The webpage shows a lot of information about the book, including the list of its chapters.

 

I've been using Profile since 2001, I believe. Before I used CanTax for almost 10 years, but at that time it became LITERALLY unusable and I had to switch during the tax season.

 

As to the $2,000 credit, yes, it's only for Ontario residents, courtesy of our Premier Doug Ford!

 

 

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Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

Not everyone is eligible for the CTC. And for 2021, the maximum is $500, as it started in 2020 ($250 for 2020 and $250 for 2021):

 

The 2019 Federal Budget announced the Canada training credit (CTC) which started in 2020. Individuals can accumulate $250 towards their Canada training credit limit each year if, in the preceding year, they met all eligibility conditions. An individual’s Canada training credit limit for a year represents the maximum credit they can claim in that year, and will be reduced in the subsequent year by the amount of any CTC claimed. Eligibility conditions include a minimum working income threshold and a maximum net income threshold in respect of the preceding year. For example, the accumulation of a $250 Canada training credit limit for 2020 was dependent on income in 2019; for 2020 the minimum working income threshold of $10,000 and the maximum net income threshold (the amount at which the 29% tax bracket begins for the 2019 year – $147,667) was applied to a taxpayer’s income earned in 2019.

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Thank you so much for the detailed information.  I think it makes sense now.  The key word for me is "Working" income, not RRSP, RRIF, Dividends, CERB, etc.  And I'm assuming that "working income" will include the net income from self-employment, correct?

Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

"Working Income" is defined for purposes of the CWB under subsection 122.7(1) (while including amounts that are exempt from tax under paragraph 81(1)(a) or subsection 81(4)).

 

Also federal employment insurance maternity or parental benefits are counted towards the income limit as well as Quebec provincial parental benefits that are otherwise exempt from tax under paragraph 81(1)(a).

 

Since the CRA calculates the limit, I don't think I'm going to bother checking the correctness of their calculations.

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Oh gosh no, I don't want you to calculate anything!  I'm saying that I think I understand now why she has the limit she has.  I attached a file here just to show you why it looked so confusing to me.

You know a lot!  Thanks so much for taking the time to help me out.

I should ask though - what is CWB that you are getting the information from?

Cindy

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

 
Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

Cindy: some info comes from online resources, others from my "bible", i.e., "Preparing Your Income Tax Returns. 2022 Edition for 2021 Returns." I've been getting this book annually since 1988 or so.

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Well thank you so very much!  When CRA was its own separate site before, I could usually find my answers there but now that they've amalgamated all of the government services under one site, I can't find a dang thing anymore!  It wastes too much time trying to find something that actually applies to what you are looking for.  So I definitely appreciate the help!!!  

Stevie1
Level 3

Canada Training Credit

Good morning my esteemed and learned colleagues.

In regards to CTC, if I enter the credit of $250 with $4700 tuition fee, the refund jumps to over $2000 on provincial amount. I know it is 50% of the tuition fee amount to the maximum of $2500 but I want to be absolutely sure that it is correct otherwise if the client receives that money and has to return it back with interest they will not be very happy. Can someone confirm it please. I really appreciate it.

Stevie1
Level 3

Canada Training Credit

Correction

Good morning my esteemed and learned colleagues.

In regards to CTC, if I enter the credit of $250 with $4700 tuition fee, the refund jumps to over $2500 on provincial amount. I know it is 50% of the tuition fee amount to the maximum of $2000 but I want to be absolutely sure that it is correct otherwise if the client receives that money and has to return it back with interest they will not be very happy. Can someone confirm it please. I really appreciate it.

Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

I believe it's correct-I've already made a number of my clients extremely happy by increasing their refund by $2,500! As you see, education DOES pay off-even before you graduate from school!

 

Stevie1
Level 3

Canada Training Credit

Thank you Jack. I really appreciate it. Now it puts my mind to ease. But you know, even if the person can not use the tuition amount, they can carry forward it but still gets the CTC as well as the provincial credit upto $2000. WOW it is definitely a winfal for some old fox who think taking the course while working doesn't pay off.
kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Jack, is that the book by J.K. Lasser?  And is it strictly Canadian taxes?  I don't want a book that gets into US taxes whatsoever!

And do you know anything about this one - "Make Sure it's Deductible: Little-Known Tax Tips for Your Canadian Small Business" by Evelyn Jacks?

Thanks in advance!

 

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

I'm not sure I understand how this happens considering that the most anyone can have available as a credit right now is $500 and you use the lower of the numbers of (50% of tuition) or (500 CTC).  Meaning you would always be using only the $500 CTC amount wouldn't you?

Stevie1
Level 3

Canada Training Credit

Yes the federal amount of $500 credit is OK but the big jump is provincial amount of upto $2000.So the person ends up getting upto $2500 in refund depending on the amount of tuition fee.

Stevie1
Level 3

Canada Training Credit

Also I am working on a return of a 26 year old. With zero income and $5500 in tuition fee. With $250 Canada training credit, his refund goes from zero to $2250. $2000 on line 47900 and $250 on line 45350. I thought the person has to have a minimum income of $10342.

I don't understand. Is there a glitch in the software. Can someone explain please

Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

Cindy: No, the book is published annually by Wolters Kluwer and it deals with Canadian taxes only.

 

I think I have “Make Sure it’s Deductible” by Evelyn Jacks, but I haven’t bought any recent editions for a while.

 

BTW, some 20 years ago I bought a book, written by a Chartered Accountant, about corporations, taxes and deductions. I was quite surprised by some of his suggestions regarding allowances. I even contacted the CRA and eventually spoke to a very knowledgeable senior officer, quoting him some of the passages from the book. He was quite surprised, too, and said that he did not agree with what the author said either. So sometimes it’s a good idea not to accept everything you read at face value!

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Is this the one Jack? 

 

I'm editing this now because I can see this is NOT the one.  I finally found it though - it has a blue cover this year.  Feel free to email me at [email address removed] if it's easier Jack because I do have two more questions if you don't mind.

1.  I do only personal income tax, not even rental, so is this book too much for what I need?

2.  Do you use the Profile program for doing taxes or the one from this other company?

Thanks in advance!

Cindy

 

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

I wasn't getting this result so I tested it on every province and territory.  This big jump ONLY HAPPENS on an ONTARIO resident's tax return - no others.

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Hey Jack.  This wasn't working for me, so I tried it out on every province and territory.  Turns out it ONLY makes that jump on an ONTARIO resident's tax return - no others.

(I sent you a couple of other questions on another post)

Stevie1
Level 3
Jack_Canada
Level 6

Canada Training Credit

Cindy: This is the book: https://shop.wolterskluwer.ca/en/preparing-your-income-tax-returns.html. The book covers everything-personal taxes, business taxes (not corporations), rental income, immigrants, emigrants, etc. The webpage shows a lot of information about the book, including the list of its chapters.

 

I've been using Profile since 2001, I believe. Before I used CanTax for almost 10 years, but at that time it became LITERALLY unusable and I had to switch during the tax season.

 

As to the $2,000 credit, yes, it's only for Ontario residents, courtesy of our Premier Doug Ford!

 

 

kivacin
Level 4

Canada Training Credit

Awesome Jack.  Once again, thank you so much for your insight.  I really appreciate it.

Stevie1
Level 3

Canada Training Credit

A client is 28, has 250 training credit as per 2021 NOA and paid fee of 7K BUT his income for 2022 is o. BUT the Profile gives him a refund of $2250 (2000 provincial and 250 training credit). Is it correct? I thought one has to have a minimum income of 10K before they can use training credit? Also my second question is for a second client, does this credit apply for online courses if the client meets all the other criteria BUT No T2202 though.