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tracey2972
Level 1

Can anyone tell me which VAT codes I should be using for mobile phone roaming charges?

On my mobile phone bill there's a VAT code of 0% for roaming but it doesn't say which kind of 0% it is - E, Z, ECS etc.
Can anyone help please - it includes roaming inside and outside of the EU
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Best answer April 25, 2023

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Ashleigh1
QuickBooks Team

Can anyone tell me which VAT codes I should be using for mobile phone roaming charges?

Hello Tracey2972, Thanks for posting on the Community page, here is an article to help you, if you still not sure what to put it against we would advise you reach out and speak to a trained and qualified accountant, they will be able to help and guide you more as we are not trained accountants just technical support here.

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Ashleigh1
QuickBooks Team

Can anyone tell me which VAT codes I should be using for mobile phone roaming charges?

Hello Tracey2972, Thanks for posting on the Community page, here is an article to help you, if you still not sure what to put it against we would advise you reach out and speak to a trained and qualified accountant, they will be able to help and guide you more as we are not trained accountants just technical support here.

paul72
Level 8

Can anyone tell me which VAT codes I should be using for mobile phone roaming charges?

Good afternoon @tracey2972 

 

Use Z=0% or Exempt - both have the same effect on the VAT Return.

 

Do not use NoVAT - that code does not record to the VAT Return at all.

Do not use any of the EC/EU VAT codes - unless you're in Northern Ireland they are no longer relevant but QB seems to insist on keeping them (which would be OK if the information about them was updated).

 

Hope this helps.

tracey2972
Level 1

Can anyone tell me which VAT codes I should be using for mobile phone roaming charges?

Hi

Thanks for your help.

I've been using E for the last year but for some reason my accountant has now decided I should be using the ECS0% for intra-EU B2B - I'm sure that's wrong because our customers are UK based, it's that some of the usage is roaming.

paul72
Level 8

Can anyone tell me which VAT codes I should be using for mobile phone roaming charges?

I think what your accountant is trying to replicate is this...

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-telecommunication-services-used-outside-the-eu/vat-te...

 

In 2017, UK VAT was added to roaming charges for consumers (but not businesses).  This was due to a change in the interpretation of the Place of Supply for B2C.

I haven't read the full text but it looks like Place of Supply for B2B remained unchanged - which leaves it open to confusion. It would be considerably easier if phone companies charged B2C & B2B with UK VAT which businesses would then reclaim (I know our supplier - O2 - zero rates all roaming on our business account).

 

If your accountant insists it should be Reverse Charged then the code to use would be 20.0%RCSG (we are no longer in the EU so should not be using an EC/EU VAT Code ... & certainly not ECS0% which was for services that would be zero-rated anyway).

NB: the description in the above-linked thread VAT codes in QuickBooks Online: A complete guide is wrong - 20%RCSG is the Rest of World equivalent of 20.0% ECS - Intra EU B2B purchase of services.

 

Just to reassure slightly - whichever one of these codes you use, it will make no difference to the VAT you actually pay to HMRC:

    Z=0% / Exempt both post £nil to to Box 4.

    The RC codes post ±VAT to Box 1 and 4 - which cancel out.

The codes obviously have different effects on Box 6/7 but these are less important to the VATman.

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