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paul72
Level 8

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit


@userinfo40 wrote:

Those codes aren't available in the QBO Ireland version.

 

One thing I could use is the EU reverse charge rates and it will work but it will also add it to the row - goods/services supplied from EU countries (E2) which is incorrect. I could take note of what goes into this row incorrectly and omit it when filing the return but I don't think this is a great solution long term. 

 

Thanks for your response! 


 

No problem @userinfo40 

I'm amazed they're effectively selling a neutered version in IE.  Do they think that no-one in IE trades overseas?

The import VAT rules are so similar to ours - it can't be that difficult for Intuit to recode the PVA & RCSG codes from 20% to 23%.

 

I think your two workarounds are using EU RC codes (which would give you the correct RC VAT figures but you'd need to adjust out from the EU Purchases Box) or use a Z=0% or Exempt code & adjust the two VAT boxes (I think you said T1 & T2).

You could create a special ROW Import VAT code (a copy of Z=0% or Exempt) to make it easier to find each transaction for adjustment.

 

If you want to delve deeper, it is possible (at least, should be possible) to manually recreate The PVA & RCSG codes. However, these codes are not simple codes - they're actually two codes linked as a Group.  One that adds the Value & the VAT plus a second one that deducts the VAT.

QBO allows you to create Code Groups.  I don't really have the time to do it at the moment to give you a step-by-step but there is a walk-through for Desktop that 'should' point you in the right direction ...

https://quickbooks.intuit.com/learn-support/en-uk/help-article/value-added-tax/create-pvat-20-0-code...

paul72
Level 8

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit


@JohnC4 wrote:

I now post all UK invoices as 0% VAT and as there is no mechanism to recoup VAT on any UK invoice.

UK suppliers may charge whatever VAT they want. We just need to record the full amount we paid as we can't claim the UK VAT back due to Brexit.
So record the full invoice amount inclusive of VAT at 0%.

In summary, there is no VAT recorded on your UK purchases against your T2 as you can't claim it back, and also there is no impact on T1 as its Sales only.


Now recording French VAT at a different rate of 21% to our Irish rate of 23% requires a new French VAT rate to be created linked to your T2. This then allows you to reclaim it as part of your VAT return.

 

QB Help unfortunately has no knowledge of Irish Taxation.

 

Regards

 

JohnC

 

 

Hi @JohnC4 


I think you have misunderstood.  This is not about UK VAT being charged by the supplier (as an export to an overseas business this would be zero rated by the UK supplier).  This is Reverse Charge VAT purely to report to IE Customs/Revenue.

 

As an aside, if you're reclaiming UK (or French, for that matter) VAT from IE Revenue then I suspect you're in for a bit of a telling off the next time you get a visit from the VATman. Oh, & a substantial fine for defrauding the govt.  They tend to take a dim view!

This is not (particularly) Brexit related.  There is & never was a mechanism for reclaiming VAT charged in one country from another's Revenue - you should be asking your French supplier(s) to zero-rate as a Reverse Charge export (they will need your IE VAT number to do this), then apply the EU RC VAT code in QBO.

Alternatively, if this supply is deemed to be in France (so not export) then you need a French VAT registration & you reclaim from FR Revenue.

 

Best of luck.

JohnC4
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Dear Paul72,

 

Thanks for your response, much appreciated. Great to see someone who is obviously knowledgeable in this area.

 

You are 100% correct in regards to the French invoice. We had purchased from a french supplier on a french website and when we requested a detailed invoice we received it from the UK office adding to the confusion showing what appears to be french VAT quoting a french VAT number. In an attempt to figure it out, I attempted to find some way within QB which in hindsight was a poor choice and is now being rectified.

 

Thanks again

 

JohnC

 

 

 

 

 

 

DanCreat
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

this issue needs to be sorted for ireland users asap - we are 19 months into brexit now and no update on the irish vat postings. 

 

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