VAT RETURN NOTHERN IRELAND

TBHNIOP · ‎November 29, 2021

Hi everybody

My company is based in Northern Ireland and trades with EU Countries suppliers and B2B customers.
I'm next to submit a VAT RETURN via MTD to HMRC but I noticed that Box 8 and Box 9 are Nil (£ 0.00) even if, as far as I know, they should contain the difference between Box 6 (and 7) and the EC sales (or acquisitions). .

If i click on the value of £ 0.00 associated to these two boxes, in the "preprare VAT return"window, I can actually get the list of the EC operations and the total of both sales and acquisition as a report which, obviously, it is not nil. Also at the bottom of each report I can read that it represents "total for Box 8 (or 9) of acquisitions (or sales) from other member states.

Same if I go to VAT100 Report, which is basically the same thing.

Why the VAT return says it is 0.00? Do I need to adjust it and how?
Thanks

Ashleigh1 · ‎November 29, 2021

Hello TBHJIOP,

Welcome to the Community page,

So currently there is an investigation on this that the engineers are working on getting resolved as quick as possible, there is no workaround for it. We have added you onto the investigation and soon as there is any updates you will receive and email to let you know.

TBHNIOP · ‎November 29, 2021

Ok thanks.
I hope they are quick to fix it as this is a huge issue as if I adjust Box 8 and 9 accordingly, the adjustments sums up to the real amount in the chart of accounts and that's not the proper operations.

On the other side, VAT Return can be submitted only via MTD at this point and the deadline is near...
Keep mu updated
Thanks

TBHNIOP · ‎December 02, 2021

HI there,
are the engineers been able to fix the issue of VAT return in boxes 8 and 9?

Ashleigh1 · ‎December 02, 2021

Hello TBHNIOP, the engineers are still currently working on getting this fixed, you are attached to the inv so soon as there is an update you will receive and email to let you know.

TBHNIOP · ‎December 02, 2021

Cool but what do I submit in the meanwhile to HMRC if I cant' no longer use their online service as I opted for MTD?

The wrong report hoping no one at HMRC does the math? No report risking a fine? Manual correction of the report if possible (and adjustment make a mess in the ledger but doesn't change the content of Box 8 and 9)? Any workaround to save me from fines? Any other solution? MY deadline is the next Monday, dec 7/2021.

It is unacceptable a delay in submitting the VAT Report or a wrong VAT report because of a bug in the software of a HMRC Certified provider.

Ashleigh1 · ‎December 02, 2021

Hi TBHNIOP, there is no workaround available at the moment, the best thing would be for you to explain the situation to HMRC and see what they have to say.

TBHNIOP · ‎December 02, 2021

HI, I have partially solved the issue.
Luckily all our transactions with EU countries are triangulation and under the NI Protocol, there is no need to report the net value in Box 8 and 9 of the return as the goods hasn't physically passed through NI. Notwithstanding, in case of goods coming from another EU state delivered in NI, or sent from NI to other EU countries, those boxes should have been filled accordingly.

This means that we can submit our return vi QBO/MTD.
In case someone should have the same problem and no triangular operations, I found a free MTD software provided by Anna-money who can help.

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