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Lee Gold
Level 3

Categorisation of CIS expenses: Why should all expenses subject to CIS have to go to a single account?

Why should all expenses subject to CIS have to go to a single account?

 

It is absurd, to say the least, that when using CIS all other categorisation flies out of the window. Does CIS mean the end of organised accounts?

 

With regards to VAT, any number and type of accounts can be set up. When entering a bill or expense, any of those categories/accounts can be selected whilst also choosing whether vatable or not (and what rate). A default VAT rate can be set to a supplier, but that can be amended and doesn’t affect the category.

 

Why can’t CIS be the same? Categorise the transaction as you wish in addition to selecting whether to apply CIS. Off-course, the actual rate (0% / 20% / 30%) will be set according to the payee.

 

It's hard to believe such a major fault still exists.

 

As a workaround, though far from ideal, I would set up CIS sub-accounts within the existing categories. However, a sub account can only be of the same type as the parent account. Worse still, no new CIS accounts can be created!

 

I have just turned-on CIS for a client and hit this issue. At the moment all my clients are on QB, but out of reluctance to mess up their accounts I will probably have to migrate all property-development clients to alternative software.

 

I have already spoken to telephone support, and they had nothing to say!

 

Please don’t respond with suggestions unless you have properly read and understood this issue.

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GeorgiaC
QuickBooks Team

Categorisation of CIS expenses: Why should all expenses subject to CIS have to go to a single account?

Hello Lee, thanks for reaching out to the Community


We appreciate the detailed information that you have provided. The CIS feature in QuickBooks Online, including the CIS categories, are designed in-line with HMRC and the monthly CIS return (CIS300).

 

I understand from your post that this may not meet your specific business needs, or the needs of your clients. So that your idea can be considered by our Product team, please share your message over on our QuickBooks Idea Exchange board.

Lee Gold
Level 3

Categorisation of CIS expenses: Why should all expenses subject to CIS have to go to a single account?

Thanks for your reply, However I've looked at the return and can't see what difference it would make to the return.

 

Any members agreeing to this issue, please vote on the suggestion on the QuickBooks Idea Echange Board. With 50 votes QB will consider it.

https://quickbooks.intuit.com/learn-support/quickbooks-idea-exchange/categorisation-of-cis-expenses-...

 

Unfortunately,  a 'Cheer' on the thread doesn't count for those votes, strangely!

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