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Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hello,

I am transferring money from Bank Account 1 to Bank Account 2 this comes up in the bank feeds ok

When it arrives in Bank Account 2 I need to split it into VATable and non VATable income this is only possible to do this by changing the transaction from a transfer to a deposit.

This appears to work fine but when I check in my balance sheet it is being recorded as a transfer and a deposit so it is double counting it in Bank Account 2.

Please can you advise how I get around this issue

Many Thanks

Cat

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Anonymous
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Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hi Cat2,

 

Welcome to Community.

 

Could you advise if the money hitting account 1 is income of some sort from a customer or similar?

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Account 1 is a trust account so money held there until the job is completed .. once completed it can be realised as income and is then transferred to the main bank account 2

Anonymous
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Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

I'm having a look into this for you.

 

So to confirm this would be a retainer or deposit you have taken from a customer and held in trust to be used against an invoice raised once the job is completed?

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

There is no invoice raised as the money is held in trust until a trip (holiday) is completed.

It is only realised as income once the trip is completed so then we transfer the money from the trust account the main bank account and enter part of it as VATable income and non VATable income

Does this make sense ?

 

 

Anonymous
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Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

It does make sense.

 

Do you have your VAT on Cash or Accrual basis?

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

sorry am not sure .. I can double check with my accountant

is there a different solution for each method ?

 

Anonymous
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Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Potentially, depending on the method used to account for the movement of the funds.

 

I'm looking at a few options and testing these out to see which will represent the transaction in the way you want it to hit the reports as well as the VAT return.

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hi .. I just checked and we are on accrual accounting

JamesC
QuickBooks Team

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hi Cat2,

 

We've taken a look into this, and i think this guide might be the answer you are looking for:

https://community.intuit.com/articles/1145831-how-do-i-record-a-retainer-or-deposit and use this step by step guide. 

The part where you would split it into VATable and non VATable income is when you're creating an invoice solely for the purpose of recording the income. The invoice screen on QuickBooks allows you to record the income with two different VAT codes. Because you're on Accrual, the VAT will be recorded on the same date as you put the invoice date.

You could use the Invoice date as the date the trip is completed and the income recorded. You don't need to send the invoice to anyone, it just serves a function within your books. Mark this in the memo of the invoice so you can refer back to it.

 

Thanks

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Super Thanks I shall give it a go .. fingers crossed it works :)

JamesC
QuickBooks Team

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hey Cat2,

 

Make sure you come back and let us know how you got on, don't leave us hanging! :D

 

Good Luck - We have faith in you.

 

Thanks,

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hi there,

 

It worked mostly but I still have one issue ... I raised the invoices and it matched perfectly to the latest entry in both accounts so I ended up with the correct result :)

BUT

The older entries that I had pressed undo in both accounts the invoice only seemed to match in Account 2 .. but the trust account still has these entries open and I can't seem to get it to match to them as well ?

I know I had done and undone these entries several times whilst I tried to find a solution before I contacted you but not sure what to do with these entries now ?

Any help appreciated

Thanks

Cat

EdwardR
QuickBooks Team

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hi Cat2,

 

Are these entries duplicate transactions? or should they match to another transaction from your banking?

 

Thanks :)

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

I am transferring from Account 1 (Trust Account) to Account 2 (this is when it is recognised as income) and now creating an invoice so that I can match up to the bank feeds.

I pressed the match button when in Account 2 but when I went back to account 1 I still had the transfer amount so it is appearing twice in the balance sheet in Account 2 (once as a transfer and once as  payment

Anonymous
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Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

Hi Cat2,

 

Having a look at this from a testing perspective, do you need to match both transactions on the banking feed.

 

Are there actually two separate accounts held at the bank and you move money from one account to another, not just move figures from one account in QBO to another?

 

 

Cat2
Level 2

Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

I have managed to work out what I was doing wrong .. from the trust account it should have been recorded as an expense against the liabilities account rather than a physical transfer to the bank account 2

 

Thanks for all your help everyone

Anonymous
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Transfer between accounts then amount needs to be split when it arrives but is appearing in balance sheet as a deposit and a transfer

That's no problem at all, glad we all could help as a Community.

 

If you need anything further, let us know.

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