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DanCreat
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi there - it's [email address removed]

thanks

Brenda

ACcp1
Level 2

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

I am trying this but what option would I select on the Vat Return Box for the collector general. 

Purchases from the UK

Cahir20
Level 3

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi Brenda,

 

Email address was removed!!!

Cahir20
Level 3

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi,

Is this for your vat 3 report...are you in Ireland?


@ACcp1 wrote:

I am trying this but what option would I select on the Vat Return Box for the collector general. 

Purchases from the UK




ACcp1
Level 2

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Yes in Ireland. 

I have the reverse charge codes items etc set up. 

The detailed vat report is not giving me a nett value of goods purchased from the UK to enter into the PA1 box on the vat return reports.   

 

 

Cahir20
Level 3

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Yeah, I found that too!

We don't deal a lot with the UK or EU really, 

Can you run a vat code quickreport using just the vat code you set up for UK?

Vat 3 return doesn't give you a figure for PA1, (that I can see), so you have to find it yourself!

 

I have kept an excel file detailing the purchases from UK and ROW as I feel we might be asked (by Revenue) about our trading with UK at a later stage!!

We must do this exercise all over again too as the vat has returned to 23%!!

 

PA1 is for purchase of goods from UK and ROW (as far as I know)

SUE008
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi Dan,

 

I have same problem here. I use quickbook online as well. I have received the email back to DEc 2020 and being told that we will need to use PVA import vat 0% or PVA Import vat 20% when posting the purchase from EU or Northern Ireland. However, there is no such code being created default in Quickbook online. I have to manually create this code in system. But it turn out it doesn't work properly. It is a nightmare. I don't know when the PVA code can be implemented in quickbook online. 

 

 

Charies_M
Moderator

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Thanks for letting us know about this, SUE008.

 

There is a current investigation about the issue with using PVA 20% VAT code. Our engineers are working to come up a fix as soon as possible. We are determined to get your business back on track. 

 

If you haven't contacted us yet, I suggest doing so. This way, our QuickBooks Care Team will add your company information to the affected users for easy dissemination of updates. You can have them add to the investigation number (INV53549).

 

Here's how you can reach us:

 

  1. Go to the Help menu at the upper right.
  2. Select Contact Us.
  3. Enter your concern. Then, click Let’s talk.
  4. Choose Start messaging.
  5. Fill in the information needed and click Send message.

Please check our support hours to ensure that we address your concerns on time: Support hours and types.

 

To learn more about the common VAT codes listed in QBO, visit this article: VAT codes and rates. 

 

I appreciate your patience while we're working on this. If you have other questions, just let me know. I'm always happy to assist you further. Have a great day ahead.

Cahir20
Level 3

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

masterquickbooksireland   I have worked with Peter Walls before, he is very good



DanCreat
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

I have just checked this with qb help and they have advised that this investigation reference only refers to UK companies VAT issues.  This is not for Irish trading companies using QB in ireland!!  This is extremely frustrating and is not good enough at this stage. I'm onto help at the moment so i'm hoping they can assist but this needs to be looked at immediately for irish businesses using qbo. @Charies_M 

Cahir20
Level 3

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi DanCreat,

I got help from Peter last week sorting "unassigned vat amounts" (Quickbooks support failed to help me) he helped me in 2015 also...He is based in Dublin, he spoke to me about QBO also last week...his contact details are online....worth a try maybe!

JohnC4
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Dear ReyJohn,

 

Has Quickbook updated the codes for QB Online to allow Irish Customers to enter in UK invoices?

Should there be a 'Purchases from UK suppliers' or similar?

 

This thread ends is having users contact a third party to resolve the issue and I do not see any solution being put forward by Quick Books.

 

Can you please advise.

 

Rgeards

 

John

 

LieraMarie_A
QuickBooks Team

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi there, @JohnC4.

 

You may use the Standard (S) VAT code when purchasing supplies from a UK VAT-registered supplier. Then, you'll have to create a VAT code and associated VAT items manually.

 

You can also activate new codes available in QuickBooks:

  1. Go to your Tax page.
  2. Click Edit VAT.
  3. Select Edit rates.
  4. Click the Gear icon above VAT codes.
  5. Select Include Inactive.
  6. Use the toggle on the codes that you want to activate in QuickBooks.

 

For more insights, please review this article: Get ready for the Brexit impact on business.

 

You can also send a feedback on this one. Thus, I recommend visiting our QuickBooks blog page to get you in the loop about the recent news and product developments.

 

If you have any other questions about associating VAT with your purchases, please let me know by adding a comment below. Have a good one!

AxonWare
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

<<Lastly, I’m attaching this link that you can read for guidance in filing your VAT return in QBDT: How to submit a VAT return to HMRC (MTD for QuickBooks Desktop).>>

 

This bit on MTD is not relevant for Irish only registered desktop users.

 

Desktop users in Ireland should consider a moving to QuickBooks Online Irish edition. Contact AxonWare.ie for this

userinfo40
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi - I am also having this exact issue with QBO. No VAT codes for Rest of World purchases or supplies. I have just spent 3.5hours with QBO support chat and have reached no solution. It is ridiculous. I don't know what to do to solve it. Did you find a solution? 

paul72
Level 8

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi @userinfo40 

 

As you've tagged onto the bottom of an old thread (which itself has multiple problems) could you explain a bit more or start a new thread?

Are you in ROI?

Ashleigh1
QuickBooks Team

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hello Userinfo40, thanks for posting on this thread, if you have a look at this link it shows you all the different VAT codes that there is. There is a pvat codes if you are importing goods, which you must be. If you are still unsure what code to use then we would advise you speak to a trained and qualified accountant or HMRC for confirmation on which code is best to us.

userinfo40
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi, Yes I am referring to the issue that @DanCreat was also having where I am based in ROI and trying to record purchases from the UK and from the Rest of the World. After speaking with QBO support for hours this morning there was no solution presented and was basically told that there is no VAT code available or can be created to address this. 

 

E.g Problem:

The purchase transaction from the UK is €10 with 0%VAT added. To record this correctly, €2.30 (23%VAT of €10) needs to be added to both the T1 and the T2 line of the VAT3 return. This provides proper reporting to Revenue but has no cash effect. 

 

There is no VAT code that does this in Quickbooks Online, nor are you able to create a VAT code to do this. 

paul72
Level 8

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Thanks for the extra details @userinfo40 

 

I'm in the UK & I think most of the information you'll find on here is UK-based but the basics are similar.

We have the same system adding to two lines of the VAT return to give £nil effect - so QBO must have translated that to the IE version (you would hope!).

 

If this is import of Goods you would use a PVA (Post-VAT Accounting Code) - do you have that available?

It's 20%PVA here, so I'll hazard a guess that you're looking for 23%PVA.

 

If this is Services you would use a RCSG code - 23%RCSG code.

 

If these aren't available as default VAT codes in QBO(IE) then something is very wrong.

It should be possible to manually create them (but I'll have to have a think as I haven't had to do this in a while).

 

Hope this helps.

JohnC4
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Dear Userinfo40,

 

I now post all UK invoices as 0% VAT and there is no mechanism to recoup VAT on any UK invoice.

UK suppliers may charge whatever VAT they want and we have no need to record it as we can't claim it back. So record it as inclusive of VAT at 0%.

 

The purchase transaction from the UK is €10 with 0%VAT added. To record this correctly, €2.30 (23%VAT of €10) needs to be added to both the T1 and the T2 line of the VAT3 return. This provides proper reporting to Revenue but has no cash effect. 

So there is no VAT recorded on purchases for your T2 as you can't claim it back and no impact on T1 as its Sales only.

 

Now recorded French VAT at a different rate of 21% to our rate of 23% requires a French VAT to be created linked to your T2.

Hopefully, this is right.

 

Regards

 

John

 

 

userinfo40
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi @paul72,

 

Those codes aren't available in the QBO Ireland version.

 

One thing I could use is the EU reverse charge rates and it will work but it will also add it to the row - goods/services supplied from EU countries (E2) which is incorrect. I could take note of what goes into this row incorrectly and omit it when filing the return but I don't think this is a great solution long term. 

 

Thanks for your response! 

userinfo40
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi @JohnC4, Thanks for your response. 

 

"The purchase transaction from the UK is €10 with 0%VAT added. To record this correctly, €2.30 (23%VAT of €10) needs to be added to both the T1 and the T2 line of the VAT3 return. This provides proper reporting to Revenue but has no cash effect.

So there is no VAT recorded on purchases for your T2 as you can't claim it back and no impact on T1 as its Sales only."

- how did you get €2.30% to go into both the T1 and the T2 line to cancel each out but be recorded? Surely if you record UK purchases as "inclusive of 0%" vat then €0 VAT will go into T2 and nothing will go into T1.

 

Thanks

JessT
Moderator

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Thank you for the details, userinfo40
 

I would recommend contacting our Support Team about this matter so that they can do a screen-sharing session and trace your transactions.
 

  1. Click on Help and click the Search tab.
  2. Click Contact Us at the bottom.
  3. Enter a sentence to describe the concern and click Continue.
  4. Choose Start a chat or Get a callback.

 

You can always go back to this thread if you have another concern.

userinfo40
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Hi @JessT 

 

I was speaking with the support team for 3+ hours this morning. They were unable to find a solution and I was told that a solution would be sent to me via email once the backend team had looked into it more. I haven't heard anything since. 

 

Thanks

JohnC4
Level 1

Vat Changes in Ireland after Brexit

Dear Userinfo40,

Apologies I copied part of your question to answer it. It looks different when you copy it in and then when it got posted you could not see the difference. The answer I was trying to give was:

 

I now post all UK invoices as 0% VAT and as there is no mechanism to recoup VAT on any UK invoice.

UK suppliers may charge whatever VAT they want. We just need to record the full amount we paid as we can't claim the UK VAT back due to Brexit.
So record the full invoice amount inclusive of VAT at 0%.

In summary, there is no VAT recorded on your UK purchases against your T2 as you can't claim it back, and also there is no impact on T1 as its Sales only.


Now recording French VAT at a different rate of 21% to our Irish rate of 23% requires a new French VAT rate to be created linked to your T2. This then allows you to reclaim it as part of your VAT return.

 

QB Help unfortunately has no knowledge of Irish Taxation.

 

Regards

 

JohnC

 

 

 

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