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I need to record monthly credit card payments to our accountant and we do not have a bill yet. So we are paying down our account and when we receive the invoice from them, we will have most of it paid off. This sounds really basic and maybe I'm over thinking it, but I just can't figure out how to record them so that we have a credit with them.
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Hello @Diane18 ,
The simplest way to do this is as follows:
1. Write a cheque to your accountant which presumably is a name in your Vendor List.
2. Under the Expenses tab in your cheque, enter your Accounts Payable G/L account.
3. Tab over to the Customer:Job field.
4. Enter the accountant's vendor name again.
5. Save and close.
6. Go to your Vendor List.
7. Scroll down to this vendor name.
8. Note you now have a negative Accounts Payable with this vendor, meaning that you have paid prior to invoicing.
9. Enter vendor's invoice when it arrives.
10. Go to Pay Bills.
11. Choose the vendor's name and select the vendor bill.
12. There will be credits available from the payments you have made. Apply the credits to the bill.
This is an acceptable way to do this if it is a short term thing, meaning it wouldn't span past the fiscal year-end. It also depends on if it is a significant amount. If it isn't, then this is still a good way to do it. If it is a significant amount sitting as a negative accounts payable at fiscal year-end, you should probably make a JE to move it from Accounts Payable to an other asset account so that it is identified on the financial statements for transparency. Then, if you want, you can reverse that entry the first day of the next year and pop it back into Accounts Payable.
Just remember whenever using A/P or A/R as one of the accounts in a JE, you must put it on the first line of the JE, and you must tab over to the Name field and enter the respective vendor or customer name. Only then will that line post to your A/P or A/R ledger properly, and it will always be available as a credit until you go in and apply the credits using Pay Bills or Receive Payments.
Hope that helps. :)
@Diane18 hi, thanks for reaching out to the community, we are always here to help. I understand how important recordkeeping is to the effective operation a business and is more than happy to assist you.
If you accept upfront deposits or retainers for products or services, there are several steps you need to take to account for that money. In this article, we walk you through those steps — from setting up a liability account to managing a cancelled job.
Step 1: Set up an account for upfront deposits or retainers
Before you can accept upfront deposits or retainers, you need to set up a current liability account for them. This is because upfront deposits and retainers are liabilities, not income, even though you deposit the money into your bank account.
To create a liability account:
Once the account is created, you need to create an item to use when recording upfront deposits or retainers.
Step 2: Create an upfront deposit item
To accept upfront deposits or retainers, you need to set up an item to use when you record the associated transactions.
This item is linked to the liability account you just set up to properly record upfront deposits.
To create an item, follow these steps:
You can now use this item to record upfront deposits or retainers you accept.
Step 3: Record upfront deposits or retainers you receive
When you receive an upfront deposit or retainer from a customer, you need to record it.
The deposit or retainer is recorded as a liability.
Step 4: Create invoices
When you receive a retainer or an upfront deposit for a product or service, you need to create an invoice for the product or service.
To create an invoice:
Step 5: Apply upfront deposits or retainers to invoices
When you provide the product or service for which you accepted an upfront deposit or retainer, and it's time to collect payment, you can apply the upfront deposit or retainer as payment on the invoice. This moves the deposit from the liability account to your income account.
There are two ways to do this:
The following sections provide the steps for each method. Select the method that works best for your business.
Option A: Enter upfront deposits or retainers as line items
When you apply an upfront deposit or retainer to a customer's invoice, you can enter it as a line item on the invoice, reducing the total of the invoice by the amount of the deposit.
To enter an upfront deposit or retainer as a line item on an invoice:
The deposit is entered on the invoice and reduces the amount due.
When the deposit applied is for the full amount of the invoice, the transaction is marked as paid.
Option B: Apply upfront deposits or retainers as credits
When you apply an upfront deposit or retainer to a customer's invoice, you can enter the amount as a credit to pay the invoice.
To apply an upfront deposit or retainer to an invoice as a credit:
The upfront deposit or retainer is applied to the selected invoice.
Cancelled Job: Manage upfront deposits or retainers
If a customer cancels a job for which you accepted an upfront deposit or retainer, the deposit doesn't remain as a liability.
You have two options to handle upfront deposits or retainers for cancelled orders, depending on your business process:
The following sections provide detailed steps for each option.
Option A: Keep all or part of an upfront deposit or retainer
To keep all or a portion of the deposit after a job or order is cancelled:
The portion of the upfront deposit or retainer you are keeping is recorded as income, and the part you are not keeping is recorded as refunded to the customer.
Option B: Issue a refund of an upfront deposit or retainer
To issue a refund:
The refund is issued for the full amount of the upfront deposit or retainer.
Hello @Diane18 ,
The simplest way to do this is as follows:
1. Write a cheque to your accountant which presumably is a name in your Vendor List.
2. Under the Expenses tab in your cheque, enter your Accounts Payable G/L account.
3. Tab over to the Customer:Job field.
4. Enter the accountant's vendor name again.
5. Save and close.
6. Go to your Vendor List.
7. Scroll down to this vendor name.
8. Note you now have a negative Accounts Payable with this vendor, meaning that you have paid prior to invoicing.
9. Enter vendor's invoice when it arrives.
10. Go to Pay Bills.
11. Choose the vendor's name and select the vendor bill.
12. There will be credits available from the payments you have made. Apply the credits to the bill.
This is an acceptable way to do this if it is a short term thing, meaning it wouldn't span past the fiscal year-end. It also depends on if it is a significant amount. If it isn't, then this is still a good way to do it. If it is a significant amount sitting as a negative accounts payable at fiscal year-end, you should probably make a JE to move it from Accounts Payable to an other asset account so that it is identified on the financial statements for transparency. Then, if you want, you can reverse that entry the first day of the next year and pop it back into Accounts Payable.
Just remember whenever using A/P or A/R as one of the accounts in a JE, you must put it on the first line of the JE, and you must tab over to the Name field and enter the respective vendor or customer name. Only then will that line post to your A/P or A/R ledger properly, and it will always be available as a credit until you go in and apply the credits using Pay Bills or Receive Payments.
Hope that helps. :)
Thank you very much. That's perfect!
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