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sabinefriesen
Level 2

Warranty claims

Hello QB Community - I need help please!! QBO

It's going to be a long text, I hope I can make it understandable:

We are an automotive repair shop:

So customer comes in, we order part A at parts supplier, repair the vehicle (time and part A), write a bill, bill payment - straight forward - all good.

So now after a week customer comes back saying part A is faulty!

We order new part B , repair vehicle (time and part B) - THAT'S WHERE MY PROBLEM STARTS!

 

I created an expense account for warranty claims.

 

I need to track time and parts somehow, so I billed it out to customer and gave him a credit note OR

I billed it out in regular invoice and than add lines to set same labor time and part in negative. using my warranty claims account.

We have a warranty contract with our supplier, so we get the part replaced for free if faulty and a reduced labor amount for the replacement time of the part. That means I have to bill the time spent to replace the part to our parts supplier for the warranty contract.

 

The problem is, that the supplier is not paying us the labor, he is giving us supplier credits used against the parts we buy daily.  So at the end of the month I am using all the credits against our balance owing.

 

No matter how I do it, somehow it seems I double up everything, my expense account doesn't balance or seem right. 

 

PLEASE HELP!

Thank you

5 Comments 5
LeithG
Level 7

Warranty claims

Hi sabinefriesen:

 

I would definitely talk to an accountant, but here's how I would handle it.

 

Normally, you would invoice a customer for parts and labour, but in this instance, the part is covered by the supplier, and part of the labour.

 

So the invoice should be reduced by  the amount of the part (showing a +/- possibly so the customer knows they got the part covered under warranty), and the amount of labour on the invoice reduced by the warranty reduction. 

 

So on your invoice, you'll debit the part against itself, and debit part of the labour against itself (the opposite of the credit/revenue).  So your invoice should look like:

Credit: Accounts Receiveable/Sales Part

Debit: Accounts Receiveable/Sales Part

Credit: Accounts Receivable/Sales Labour

Debit: Accounts Receivable/Sales Partial Labour

 

The other side of this transaction, is the inventory and expenses.  So you have a credit (part coming out of inventory), and a credit memo against the supplier for the cost of the part, plus the labour they're paying for.  Where do you credit?  Against the labour expense presumably since it's being paid for by the supplier.

KellyMitton
Level 1

Warranty claims

This situation is very similar to my situation except I have not created a warranty account as the credit I get back from the supplier goes against a Line of Credit account we have with them.  My issue is how to code the tax on these invoices???  So the original equipment and the part(s) used to repair would have come from the supplier (Toro) and when they provide us parts for warranty work they do not include HST/GST nor do they include it for the labour amounts they credit us.  So when we write up the invoice I'm not sure what tax code to use???

JamesM4
QuickBooks Team

Warranty claims

Hello KellyMitton. QuickBooks is a versatile program that enables you to get your work done faster using the powerful features offered in the program. Making sure you're recording your funds the right way is crucial for maintaining clean books. That being said, I highly recommend getting in touch with an accounting professional that'll be happy to provide expert accounting advice on how to classify the funds. Here's a link where you can search for an accounting expert in case you need one. Let me know if you have other questions. I'm here to steer you in the right direction.

McBrideBookkeeping
Level 4

Warranty claims

Hey Sabine,


I realize this is a very old topic & I hope you have it resolved by now butI actually have an Identical Issue with a client of mine and we found more than one way to solve it, also, marking this resolved may help future people with the same problem.


As everyone else is saying, you should reach out to a QBO Expert and get some hands on help, That's definitely the "Right Answer" here as there are some complex issues like taxes and 'playing' with your A/P and A/R accounts.


But, just so I don't leave you hanging here are some ideas to resolve this

Step 1 is Do nothing with your Existing Client, They've been billed and paid and now are making a Warranty Claim. Of Course you could, like my client does, offer them a consolation/gift at the same time to thank them for their patience and trusting you with the work. If you need to Invoice them for anything non-warranty related or not covered, do this as normal.


Step 2 would be to charge the new Part and Labor to the Supplier. You can do this 2 ways:
1 - Invoice your Supplier like a Customer
2 - Use a Debit Memo to notify them of the Credit you want


Each of these methods has their own issue though. If you Invoice your Supplier, you then need to "Pay off" that Invoice with Accounts Payable (to mirror a Credit on your account). and if you choose to "issue" a Debit Memo (which is a demand for a Credit note) then you need to micro-manage that to ensure it comes in as expected & it is not possible to "send" or "print" Credit Memos in QBO unfortunatly.


I find you have to micro-manage this process no matter what method you choose as Suppliers have their own issues/initiative and often change the rules mid-way so you end up just happy you 'got something'. Plus as @KellyMitton mentioned there's the issue of Taxation.


Let's go down the Credit Note Route for now as it's the one I use and I can explain it with images for you.

 

First, Let's make sure your Parts and Labour are able to be both added to Sales & Purchases documents, See the image below from the Products & Service menu.Item for Warranty Labour.png

 

Second, Open a Credit Memo in QBO and treat it like you would an Invoice to your Customer for Labor and Parts. This time though, make sure you have the "Supplier" in the Name Field.

I'd recommend adding a unique Ref# so you can track it and follow up to ensure the supplier issues the credit etc

 

Supplier Credit for Warranty Claim.png

 

As for Taxes...? You should check with your Accountant or call the CRA to find out what they think. I can think of an Argument for both cases of charging and not-charging GST/HST in this scenario and the Auto Industry already has some interesting exceptions like on Trade-ins etc so please DO double check. CRA has a GST rulings phone like with some AMAZING people on the phones, I highly recommend them !

Contact GST/HST Rulings at 1-800-959-8287

 

As for the Sending issue, my client has an online claims portal they have to use for warranty in most cases and otherwise they take a screen shot of the Credit Memo and email it to the Accounts Receivable of the Supplier. The key thing is you have to build that relationship with the other side of the transaction so that they go as smoothly as possible.

 

 

I hope this helps get you on the right track

Please mark this answer as a helpful solution if it answers your question
Thanks
McBride Bookkeeping

KellyMitton
Level 1

Warranty claims

thanks very much McBride Bookkeeping !  Some good suggestions and I will certainly contact CRA regarding how to code the tax!!

 

thanks again,

Kelly.  

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