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lululime12
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

Now that the Secure 2.0 Act allows for higher contribution limits to SIMPLE IRA in 2024 for employers with fewer than 26 employees, how do you adjust the default maximum contribuiton/deduction limit that is locked in on quickbooks online. For our small company, we need to change to a max annual deduction of $17,600 and a max of $21,450 for simple ira with catchup. Please help.

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SirielJeaB
QuickBooks Team

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I can provide details on the maximum limit for SIMPLE IRA employee contributions or deductions.

 

We can't manually update the default maximum contribution/deduction limit for a SIMPLE IRA. The program's calculations follow the contribution limits set by the IRS, which will automatically change in the system. For more information on retirement plans, you can visit the IRS website.

 

Here's an article that provides details on editing a retirement plan item: Set up or change a retirement plan.

 

I'll be on the lookout for your response if you have further questions about payroll contributions or deductions and will address this promptly.

FishingForAnswers
Level 9

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

@SirielJeaB  You said: "In the meantime, let's make sure the payroll settings and contributions accurately reflect the new limits for your company."

 

Yes, that is exactly what the OP wants to do.

 

Yet somehow, I can't seem to find the part of your post that tells them how to do that.

lululime12
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

Thank you for the reply. So it sounds like the max contribuiton amount in QBO will automatically change soon to be compliant with the new provisions for 2024? And QBO will recoginize that I am a small employer and will apply the new, increased limits accordingly? The Secure 2.0 ACT, signed into law in Dec. 2022, is clear on the contribution limit increases for Simple IRAs beginning in 2024 and we are already half way through the year. What is the expected timeline for QBO to roll out this change?

lululime12
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

Thank you for the replyt. So it sounds like the max contribuiton amount in QBO will automatically change soon to be compliant with the new provisions for 2024? And QBO will recoginize that I am a small employer and will apply the new, increased limits accordingly? The Secure 2.0 ACT, signed into law in Dec. 2022, is clear on the contribution limit increases for Simple IRAs beginning in 2024 and we are already half way through the year. I understand that the link to the IRS web page that you provided has not been updated to reflect all of the provisions of secure 2.0 Act but that information can be found elsewhere on the irs.gov site.  What is the expected timeline for QBO to roll out this change?

Eman_E
QuickBooks Team

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I can see that these updates may have come as a surprise for us and other tax processors, @lululime12. Let me discuss this in detail.

 

In the meantime, there is no specific time frame for us to know when the Secure Act 2.0 will be implemented this 2024, but rest assured that we will comply with the regulations from the IRS.

 

Moreover, to learn more about retirement plan deduction or a company contribution in QuickBooks Online Payroll, check out these links: 

 

 

Fill me in whenever you have follow-up questions concerning payroll deductions. The Community is more than glad to assist you further. Stay safe.

FishingForAnswers
Level 9

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

@Eman_E  Well, I suppose as long as you *will eventually* decide to comply with the law, why should customers be concerned about anything?

 

I mean, I'm sure it's a difficult task for the engineers to take a number and replace it with a different number. The higher ups will first have to have a meeting to discuss when to talk about it later.

Annegc
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

My company is also impacted by this issue, and I was wondering if there was any update since it has been four weeks since your post. Our employees are very anxious to be able to maximize their contributions. Thank you.

JorgetteG
QuickBooks Team

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I acknowledge the impact of these changes on your business and employees, Annegc.

 

Currently, the maximum contribution/deduction limit for a SIMPLE IRA in QuickBooks Online is set as default, and manual editing or updating is unavailable.

 

While we're unable to provide a specific timeline for implementing the Secure Act 2.0, please be assured that we are committed to complying with the IRS regulations, and necessary changes will be automatically reflected in the system.

 

For more information regarding contribution and benefit limits, please visit the following link: Retirement Topics- Contributions

 

Additionally, you might find it helpful to explore the forthcoming changes and new offerings by referring to this resource: SECURE Act 2.0: Small Business Owner Guide and Key Retirement Changes.

 

We're here to assist you with other payroll concerns, including managing payroll deductions, payroll reports, or related matters. Just leave a comment below, and we will promptly assist you.

Anna-D
Level 1

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I am also managing QuickBooks for a small business.  My employees are also anxious to start to have their deductions increased and not to be left at the end of the year with a large sum to be removed from their final paycheck to make up for this delay in QuickBooks. 

 

I understand that QB must stay in compliance, but as has been commented on previous, this law was put in place some time ago.  Every investment firm is communicating the higher limit to their clients.  It is tough to tell our employees that our accounting software is preventing us from acting on this on their behalf.

PamC2
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

We are also a small employer seeking that the limit be increased within payroll to match the 2024 Secure 2.0.  I have spent hours on the phone with Intuit support with no avail.

 

The end of the year is approaching quickly.  When will Intuit update the limit to match the new law?  There are multiple employees and companies affected by this.

SheandL
QuickBooks Team

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

We can send a feedback to our engineering team about the limit adjustment for the Simple IRA deduction, @PamC2. I'd be glad to assist you in submitting one. 

 

While we can’t provide a specific timeline for the adjustment, res assured that your input to our team will be taken seriously. We’re dedicated to ensuring with compliance to the new payroll law, and your suggestion will help us prioritize this important update. 

 

To submit one, here's how: 

 

  1. Go to the Gear icon menu at the top, then select Feedback.
  2. Enter your comments or product suggestions.
  3. Click Next to submit feedback.

 

Additionally, I'll include these article that you can read if you want to manage your deductions and contributions using QuickBooks Payroll: 

 

 

In case you have other questions about the Simple IRA adjustments, please don't hesitate to reply to this post. I'll be around to help you anytime.

Annegc
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I don't want to discourage anyone from using the Feedback option - I just want to share that I've been submitting feedback weekly since July 23 on this issue. I don't understand why Quickbooks can't provide any information such as a projected implementation date. With no updates, it appears that the issue isn't being addressed at all, and that Quickbooks doesn't think there are enough customers in this situation to warrant a solution. I truly hope this isn't the case.  

1234ajb
Level 1

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I'm having the same issue and I'm so frustrated.  The customer service agents also have no clue what's going on.

Dfg1
Level 1

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

We are having the same issue and running out of time in 2024.  Due to our company being less than 25 employees, we have increased the simple IRA limits due to the 2024-2 Notice located on IRS.gov.  Please have Quickbooks increase to the new total catchup limit of $21,240 (110% increase) due to this notice ASAP as employees can increase their contributions due to the Secure Act 2.0 changes listed in Notice 2024-2 located on the IRS.gov website.

lululime12
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

My original post is from July. It's been 4 months and there is STILL no resolution to this issue. Our employees are running out of time to max out their Simple IRA contributions this year. From researching online, QBO competitors have changed their systems to allow for ALL of the Secure Act 2.0 changes, including the Simple IRA max increase for employers with 25 or fewer employees. Why isn't QBO addressing this change????? Calling support and calling payroll gets you nowhere on this issue. The Blog link from QBO,  SECURE Act 2.0: Small Business Owner Guide and Key Retirement Changes. does not even mention this key change to Simple IRAs. Instead of giving me links to sites that don't have any information that addresses the issue/question, can you please work with your team to get details on what is happening with this change and why it has not been implemented in QBO yet?

PamC2
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I agree with all that Intuit needs to fix this issue.  It is an issue for our business as well.

 

In the interim, after HOURS on the phone with Intuit support, one agent gave me a "work-around" that I believe "at this time" is the best we can do since Intuit does not seem to be willing to address this issue.

 

The work around is to max out the SIMPLE to 16000 (19500 for catchup).  Then for the remaining amount, use a different employee deduction type for "401K Catchup".  The allowable amounts are higher.

 

This will cause W2s to have two lines one them in box 12 (one for the SIMPLE and one for a 401K).  This is not exactly accurate but my accountant has advised me that it should not be a problem.  In the unlikely event it were questioned by the IRS, it can be shown that all funds went into the SIMPLE and that the amounts were allowed because of SECURE 2.0.

 

I would suggest you discuss with your own accountant before using this method.  As I said before, it's a work-around - not perfect.  But, this is our plan to get to our end-goal of being able to max out allowable contributions.

lululime12
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

Thank you for sharing your work-around. I will run this past our accountant as well. I appreciate this community, especially when QB is dragging their feet to address the issue.

Kurt_M
QuickBooks Team

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

Welcome to the Community space, @Dfg1. I'll share details about adjustments with Simple IRA and Secure 2.0 inside QuickBooks Online (QBO).

 

I recognize how crucial it is to adjust the Simple IRA to fit your specific amount and percentage requirements. After assessing our current capabilities, I can confirm that this feature is still unavailable, and we cannot provide a clear timeline for when this will be available. Since there are no options to accomplish this within the system, I recommend contacting your Tax ProAdvisor for help managing these changes outside of QuickBooks Online.

 

Furthermore, you can check this page to help manage contributions inside QBO: Set up or change a retirement plan.

 

Feel free to visit us here in the Community space if you need assistance managing employee contributions or have any questions related to QuickBooks. As always, I'll be around to extend a helping hand. Stay safe.

FishingForAnswers
Level 9

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

@Kurt_M  Well, at least you aren't pretending that "We’re dedicated to ensuring with compliance to the new payroll law, and your suggestion will help us prioritize this important update."

 

This is ridiculous.

 

Even if your engineering team had been collectively pressing one key per month since this thread started, they'd still be at least close to updating the caps.

 

It is literally 5 keystrokes per cap, you absolute cyber-gremlins.

Todd1580
Level 1

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

I noticed in Quickbooks today you added "Simple IRA Higher Limit" and "Simple IRA Catch-up Higher Limit." However, the "Simple IRA Catch-up Higher Limit" has a maximum of $19,850.00 and it should be $21,450.00 ($17,600.00 + $3,850.00).

 

Thank you for adding these retirement plan options!

Annegc
Level 2

Simple IRA max contribution adjusment, 2024 Secure 2.0 ACT (employers with fewer than 26 employees)

Great catch, Todd1580! I see they've made the correction you requested, too.

I called QB support and they confirmed that if I use the new categories, the new contributions will be added to the original on the W-2s.

Since our company has three pay periods left in 2024, we're going to use a contribution rate of $650 for those remaining pay periods to meet the $1,950 difference between the original limit of $19,500 and the new limit of $21,450. (For those in the SIMPLE IRA Catch-up Higher Limit category.)

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