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Swimhole
Level 2

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

Hi - I need help understanding how to classify in chart of accounts a stock fee ($300) that a member pays when joining a private, member pool. In addition, when the member resigns their membership, they get the stock fee back, How should a "return stock fee" be classified in chart of accounts? 

 

We do have members that never resign their membership. They will just not communicate and never pay their annual dues. After 90 days their membership is revoked and their stock fee is never given back. How do I classify a stock fee that is in the system, but never redeemed (paid out).

 

THANK YOU for any help!!!

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Best answer May 10, 2022

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Rainflurry
Level 15

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

@Swimhole 

 

Sorry to keep dragging this on.  Maybe there's a reason this stock fee has been recorded as income?  Do members pay a monthly fee in addition to their stock fee?  If not, recording it as income has merit.  The IRS requires that the way you keep your records should clearly reflect income.  So, if the stock fee is a major source of income, you should record it (or a portion of it) as income.  

 

If members pay fees in addition to their stock fee, then, as you suspected, it should be classified as equity.  Don't worry about allocated vs. unallocated in this case.  Just set up a service item called owner equity (or member equity) and map it to an equity account.  Then, use that item to sell and refund the stock fee. 

 

Does your organization have a CPA that prepares your tax return?  If so, I would ask them about the forfeiture.  If the stock fee is considered equity, I'm not 100% sure that should be recorded as income upon forfeiture.  

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Rainflurry
Level 15

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

@Swimhole 

 

I've never heard the term "stock fee" used to describe what sounds like a refundable deposit.  Is there a distinction between the two?

 

The proper classification of customer deposits varies depending on several factors.  In this case, because you do not have complete dominion over the funds (the member can request it back in cash anytime), these should be recorded as a liability when received.  Create a "Member Deposits" (or something similar) other current liability account.  If you invoice members, you can create a service item called "Member Deposits" and map it to the new liability account.  Then, add that item to the customer's invoice and receive the payment.  This will add the $300 to the liability account.  When the member resigns their membership, create a refund receipt for the same item/amount.  This will remove the liability.

 

If the member resigns their membership and forfeits their deposit, create a journal entry: debit the member deposit liability account and credit an appropriate income account. 

 

      

Swimhole
Level 2

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

You are a rockstar!  Yes, the stock fee could be compared to a refundable deposit.  The $300 stock fee is the essential cost of stock ownership in the pool.

It appears stocks fee that were forfeited in the past years were never done the way you described.  Should I figure out that amount and do a journal entry for that amount?

Thank you so much for replying!!

Rainflurry
Level 15

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

@Swimhole 

 

OK, so the stock fee sounds like member equity, not a liability.  Therefore, change the account and the item info in my previous post to an equity account and use "Member Equity" instead of "Member Deposit". 

 

What type of organizational structure is the pool?  Co-op?  Forfeited member equity is not always taxable income.  Do you have bylaws that explain how to handle forfeited member fees?

Swimhole
Level 2

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

Hi - Yes, the stock fee would be equity (member equity). I did recently set it up like this. Yes, co-op with a board of directors. It is stated in the agreement the member signs,"If you have not notified treasurer in writing of your intention to withdraw your membership, you will forfeit your membership and stock fee." 

I recently did change the "stock redemption" to a long time liability/shareholder notes payable.  That however, did not show the resigned accounts where I had issued a refund receipt.  

Rainflurry
Level 15

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

@Swimhole 

 

I think this is something to run by the board of directors to confirm.  It's important to differentiate between a stock fee and the cost of the member's ownership share in the co-op.  The term stock fee is just that, a fee (income).  When you say stock fee, do you really mean that is the cost of the share ownership the member pays (equity)?  

 

If so...cooperative equity is generally either allocated (to a specific member) or unallocated (general fund owned collectively).  When a member forfeits their share, it reverts back to unallocated equity.  You would journal entry the forfeited share by debiting member equity and crediting unallocated equity.  There is no liability or income reported at all, it's just a shift from unallocated equity to allocated (when the member joins and pays) and then moved back from allocated to unallocated upon forfeiture of their share.  All outstanding forfeited fees should be entered as unallocated equity. 

Swimhole
Level 2

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

Hi - We are set up as a corporation and all members enjoy use of the pool and have ownership.  They have one vote per family and they purchase a stock (equity) that is refundable when they resign their membership. They get a check back for $300. We do operate like a co-op, but I can tell you I have never heard anyone use that word or describe the business as a co-op. 

For 20 years the stock fee was tracked as income. The return stock fee was setup as an expense.  When a member redeemed their stock, a check would be written. Originally thinking the stock fee should be set up as equity/owner's equity.  Is this the same you are saying. I apologize, not 100% sure how to set up equity allocated and unallocated equity.  

Thank you again!! You are such a big help!

Rainflurry
Level 15

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

@Swimhole 

 

Sorry to keep dragging this on.  Maybe there's a reason this stock fee has been recorded as income?  Do members pay a monthly fee in addition to their stock fee?  If not, recording it as income has merit.  The IRS requires that the way you keep your records should clearly reflect income.  So, if the stock fee is a major source of income, you should record it (or a portion of it) as income.  

 

If members pay fees in addition to their stock fee, then, as you suspected, it should be classified as equity.  Don't worry about allocated vs. unallocated in this case.  Just set up a service item called owner equity (or member equity) and map it to an equity account.  Then, use that item to sell and refund the stock fee. 

 

Does your organization have a CPA that prepares your tax return?  If so, I would ask them about the forfeiture.  If the stock fee is considered equity, I'm not 100% sure that should be recorded as income upon forfeiture.  

Swimhole
Level 2

How to classify member stock fees and then how to classify them being paid out

Thank you again, rockstar! You have been an immense help and brought up some good points. I agree on the next steps. I appreciate all your time spent talking this through with me.

 

 

 

 

 

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