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sbosshardt
Level 2

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

 
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GlinetteC
Moderator

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

I'll walk you through recording those refunds in Quickbooks Self-Employed, sbosshardt.

 

Here are the outlined steps:

 

  1. Go to the Transaction menu and select Add Transaction.
  2. Enter the amount and a brief description.
  3. Browse the Select a category menu and choose the best option to organize your transaction. 
  4. Select Save.

For more information on how to add transactions in QBSE, please refer to this article: Manually add transactions in QuickBooks Self-Employed

 

I'm also adding these links about categories in QBSE:

 

If I can be of any additional assistance, please add a comment below. Thanks!

sbosshardt
Level 2

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

Hi GlinneteC,

 

This advice is too generic:

"Browse the Select a category menu and choose the best option to organize your transaction. "

 

Let's just consider the state tax refund use case for now.

 

If I choose the "State Tax" category, QuickBooks Self-Employed will always treat the transaction as an expense. Even if I put a "+" or "-" sign next to the amount I am entering. So I can't choose "State Tax" for a state tax refund check.

 

I can't choose "Business Income" because it isn't income. A tax refund check is not taxable income (and if I chose "Business Income", QBSE would treat it that way).

JasroV
QuickBooks Team

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

Thanks for the clarification, @sbosshardt.

 

I also appreciate you sharing your thoughts about this. To record a refund in your QuickBooks Self-Employed (QBSE) account, you can tag it as Personal

 

Then, for Tax payments, State and Federal are usually tagged as Business as these are both company expenses. To tag the transactions, you can simply follow these steps:

  1. Go to the Transactions menu.
  2. Click Add transaction.
  3. Enter the transaction in the box and the amount.
  4. Select Business for tax refund and Personal for vehicle insurance refund. 
  5. Verify the details and click Save.

On the other hand, if you connected your bank and downloaded the refund transaction. You can manually change the category as Personal.

 

Let me add these resources to learn more in handling your taxes in QBSE:

You're always welcome to post here anytime you have other concerns. Our door is always open to help you. 

nn308
Level 1

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

By tagging a transaction as personal, I don't see how that offsets the original expense.  For example, I received a $50 insurance premium refund.  How does the original insurance expense get reduced or offset by $50.  Marking it as a personal transaction as recommended above would take it out of the P&L calculations, would it not?  The effect would be expenses being overstated.   This can't be right. 

Rasa-LilaM
QuickBooks Team

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

Thanks for joining this thread, nn308.


In QBSE, there are two ways on how to track your refund. As mentioned by @JasroV, you can tag it as Personal. Another way is to exclude it since you’re not receiving or spending anything from your account.


This process will offset the amount received or have been credited back to your client. You can run the Profit and Loss Report to compare and check the accuracy of your data.

 

To exclude:

 

  1. Go to the Transactions menu on the left panel and find the refund you're working on.
  2. Then, click the right-arrow under the ACTION column.
  3. Tick the Exclude this transaction (this is for duplicates, reimbursements, customer refunds, and returned purchases) box.exclude in qbse.png
  4. Click Save.exclude in qbse.png


For future reference, these guides provide an overview of how to classify transactions and how they show up on the financial reports.

 

If you have additional questions or clarifications, don’t hesitate to go back to this thread. I’m always ready to answer them for you. Have a good one.

sbosshardt
Level 2

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

As @nn308 mentioned:

Marking it as a personal transaction as recommended above would take it out of the P&L calculations, would it not? The effect would be expenses being overstated. This can't be right.

It seems to me that your recommendation doesn't resolve their concern:

3. Tick the Exclude this transaction (this is for duplicates, reimbursements, customer refunds, and returned purchases) box.

Per the documentation on "Exclude this transaction":

QuickBooks won't include excluded transactions as part of your tax calculations or financial reports. Or you can delete transactions you've added manually. Here's how to delete or exclude a transaction.

It seems to me that Quickbooks Self-Employed is still missing important functionality here. Fortunately for me, I don't rely on QuickBooks financial reports or for getting my taxes done, since I go to a professional tax preparer who uses her own system. I simply print out the transaction log to take to her, along with my concerns and questions.

Jamesborland
Level 1

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

Refunds, when you return something, not State or Fed Refunds are categorized as income. 

 

A simple way of looking it is, a reduction of your deductions. 

 

When you return something, you get the money back, which means that the money you spent on the original transaction gets refunded to you, EI you never spent it in the first place. 

 

you Make $100 in taxable income

you spend $100 in taxable income on job supplies

your taxable income becomes $0. 

 

IF how ever you return part of or the whole transaction, that refund becomes taxable income. 
EI you return 1/4 of the order and get $25 back 

 

that means you only spent $75 on the transaction - Job Supplies and you still 

have $25 of the original income. 

alkdf
Level 1

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

The point the original poster is trying to make is that we should not be paying taxes on a refund. Excluding the refund means QuickBooks is overstating the expense. So QuickBooks has not provided a solution. The solution should be that QuickBooks needs to provide for a way to record refunds.

RoseJillB
QuickBooks Team

How do I record category transactions that are refunds? i.e. amounts refunded for state tax, vehicle insurance categories. +/- signs in Amount don't make a difference.

Thank you for joining this thread concerning recording or categorizing refund transactions in QuickBooks Self-Employed (QBSE), @alkdf.

 

QBSE offers two categories in categorizing transactions, you can put it on the Business if the transaction was for business, or select Personal for personal. If the transactions were both, you can Split this to categorize amounts into their respective category.

 

The application is designed for simple accounting that helps track self-employed business income and spending all year long. Regarding categorizing refunds, an expense-reimbursed income is income. Thus, we can tag this one as personal income, and another way to do it is to exclude it since there’s no money in or out of your account. 

 

These are the following steps to proceed:

 

  1. Go to the Transactions menu on the left panel and locate the refund entry.
  2. Select Personal under the Type column to categorize this as an income.
  3. If you opt to exclude this, tap the right arrow under the Attachments icon.
  4. Tick the Exclude this transaction (this is for duplicates, reimbursements, customer refunds, and returned purchases) box. 
  5. Click Save.

 

Furthermore, learn how you can review and download transactions from your account. Thus, you can go over to your reports menu and run financial reports by referring to this article: Export transactions and get reports in QuickBooks Self-Employed.

 

I’m always here to help if you have other concerns about QBSE. The Community is available 24/7 whenever you have questions about managing bank transactions. Take care!

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