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I purchased an existing LLC with three partners in June. We converted it from a single-member LLC to a multi-member LLC. Per our operating agreement, we each have 25% interest (ownership) in the business. This is a small business. It had no loans or physical assets whatsoever. We purchased the business to get its name, contracts/vendors, and customers. We paid the previous single member and received all the cash in the bank account. I'm using Quickbooks Online. Here's the scenario:
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Thank you for the clear concise explanation of the events.
1. Yes, that entry is correct, OBE should show ~12K. Now you need to distribute it with a journal entry since there is no more opening balance entries.
debit OBE ~12K
credit partner 1 equity, ~3K
credit partner 2 equity, ~3K
credit partner 3 equity, ~3K
credit partner 4 equity, ~3K
You will need to adjust the amounts so that when finished OBE = 0, and from this point on make OBE inactive as it will not be needed again
2. The 11K the two of you paid, is basically a loan to the partnership, and that is how I would handle it.
Create liability account named for each partner, and an asset account called goodwill, then a journal entry
debit goodwill 11K
credit loan liability 5.5K partner 1
credit loan liability 5.5K partner 2
create a sub account of goodwill called something like goodwill amortization, and an expense account called amortization expense. At the end of the year do a journal entry
debit amortization expense for 1/15th of the amount
credit goodwill amortization for the same amount
goodwill is amortized over 15 years for the IRS
Repay the loan to the partners, this is not a draw.
Thank you for the clear concise explanation of the events.
1. Yes, that entry is correct, OBE should show ~12K. Now you need to distribute it with a journal entry since there is no more opening balance entries.
debit OBE ~12K
credit partner 1 equity, ~3K
credit partner 2 equity, ~3K
credit partner 3 equity, ~3K
credit partner 4 equity, ~3K
You will need to adjust the amounts so that when finished OBE = 0, and from this point on make OBE inactive as it will not be needed again
2. The 11K the two of you paid, is basically a loan to the partnership, and that is how I would handle it.
Create liability account named for each partner, and an asset account called goodwill, then a journal entry
debit goodwill 11K
credit loan liability 5.5K partner 1
credit loan liability 5.5K partner 2
create a sub account of goodwill called something like goodwill amortization, and an expense account called amortization expense. At the end of the year do a journal entry
debit amortization expense for 1/15th of the amount
credit goodwill amortization for the same amount
goodwill is amortized over 15 years for the IRS
Repay the loan to the partners, this is not a draw.
That is super helpful. Thank you. Responding to each below:
1. Done. I've made a journal entry to distribute the initial "deposit" as equity to the four members. OBE now says zero on the balance sheet.
2. I hadn't considered that $11K to be a loan but I guess that makes sense. Are you considering it a loan because we did not contribute funds to the LLC as would normally be the case? Instead, we provided funds to purchase the existing business for which we intend to be repaid. Questions:
Checking back if anyone has an answer to these latest questions, posed above:
2. I hadn't considered that $11K to be a loan but I guess that makes sense. Are you considering it a loan because we did not contribute funds to the LLC as would normally be the case? Instead, we provided funds to purchase the existing business for which we intend to be repaid. Questions:
To keep it simple, treat the $11,000 paid for business as an equal contribution amongst all partners. Loaning the other two shareholders money to contribute capital to the business is a personal transaction and should not be recognized in the books.
Customer lists, contracts and the business name are all considered Section 197 intangibles and must be amortized over the course of 180 months (15 years) beginning with the date you placed the assets in service. This would be recorded as an intangible asset balance sheet account.
Therefore your journal entry for the $11k paid equally by each partner would be recorded as:
Debit Goodwill $11k
CR Partner Equity $2750 (for each partner’s equity account)
To record the journal entry for year end amortization, calculate the following:
$11k/180 months * 12 months = $733 of amortization expense recorded over the course of 15 years, with a few years’ amortization expense increased to record an even $11,000. You will need your Tax Accountant to create you an amortization schedule to verify this information, however.
Since you purchased the intangibles in June, let’s assume you placed them in service in June. Therefore, for example, your year 1 amortization expense would be recalculated as follows:
$733 * 7/12 = $428 for your year 1 amortization expense. Your journal entry you would record is below.
DR Amortization Expense
CR Accumulated Amortization
Please note, accumulated amortization is a contra asset account (meaning it will have a negative balance) and should be set up as a sub account of Section 197 Intangibles (Asset Account). Instead of setting up Goodwill as an asset account, I would name the Asset Account “Section 197 Intangibles” to record all intangibles on a net basis for simplicity, instead of separately.
Hopefully this information helps.
Hello, you're on the right track!
Yes, each member should have a contribution account and a disbursement account. They can be names whatever makes the most sense to you.
The percentage of membership is important to record correctly, as well.
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