Thanks Janbon, when I create a new template and look at the pdf example it looks fine, the rates and qty's are hidden. Then when I go to my estimate and select the new template and then select print and download it looks great.
Now if I select pdf view or email view I get the message "PDF view is unavailable with this template" and it also says " You're using an old template. To preview the PDF your customer sees, click Print and download.