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Pint
Level 3

Principal Officer Verification - Where's the Actual Law?

Quickbooks is now demanding companies in the United States provide the physical address, social security number and birthdate of the principal officer.  They assert, without citing, regulations from the OAFC.

The link Quickbooks provides to the OAFC isn't to a law or regulation - just the generic front page of the agency.  A search using the agency's website for "principal officer verification" returns nothing.  Similarly for any combination of those words with direct deposit.

Head over to Google and run similar searches and - surprise - the only results are directly tied to Quickbooks.

Intuit hasn't made any secret it uses Quickbooks as a data source for marketing.  Last year Intuit brazenly used payroll information without consent to peddle PPP loans through it's finance arm and when Congress banned fintech firms from providing PPP loans then transferred that confidential data to dubious third party banks like New Jersey's Crossriver Bank.

Hey Intuit/Quickbooks - if this isn't a data grab by your company then how about each of the following:

1) A link to the actual law and/or regulation this Quickbooks demand is to comply with that specifies exactly the data Quickbooks is asking for.

2) An explanation by companies in the United States, already cleared by their banks for compliance, need do the same via Quickbooks.

3) A clear statement from Quickbooks on where this data is stored, who can access it, and for what purpose.

I'll bet dinner we don't get, much less three, of those questions answered.

We're already shopping for a replacement company for Quickbooks.  What a terrible company.


3 Comments 3
BettyJaneB
QuickBooks Team

Principal Officer Verification - Where's the Actual Law?

Hello there, @Pint.

 

I hear you and realize the importance of your information's security. Let me provide some insights about the principal officer verification for Payroll.

 

QuickBooks is continuing to improve its security by mandating that every employer enter their principal officer's information. This is in compliance with the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) that falls within the Executive Branch of the U.S.

 

This is a check required by the U.S. Government to fight the funding of terrorism and money-laundering activities. The turnaround time for verification varies from the time all updates have been made and documentation is received. 

 

To learn more about this requirement, please check out this link: Principal officer verification for Payroll IDV holds.

 

When it comes to the security of your information, you can always scan through these resources for complete details about the verification process: 

You can always get back to me if you have any other questions about the principal officer verification. I'll be around to lend a helping hand.

Pint
Level 3

Principal Officer Verification - Where's the Actual Law?

What an absolute nonsense reply.

You skipped - entirely - the most important point.  Where is the actual law or regulation dictating companies disclose this information?

All you did was repost the original text which includes these dubious lines:

"This is in compliance with the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) that falls within the Executive Branch of the U.S."

This sounds so silly.  One does not comply with an Office.  One complies with laws or regulations.  That the OFAC (which is part of the Treasury) is part of the Executive Branch is irrelevant - the only reason to include this is to scare people who don't understand how government is organized. 

 

"This is a check required by the U.S. Government to fight the funding of terrorism and money-laundering activities."

Again, you claim this is required by the government, but you don't cite the actual law or regulation, and specifically the regulation you claim requires disclosure of a persons social security number, birthday and physical address.

You ignore that no where on the OFAC website is there any article, citation or note about this.  Googling it only returns Quickbooks claims.  That makes it seem even more suspicious.

People should be wary of Quickbooks.  Both Quickbooks and Intuit have suffered data breaches.  Hacking Quickbooks is relatively easy and multiple websites show how it's done.  Quickbook's cloud hosting company was hacked and held by ransomware.  Quickbooks  openly acknowledges selling payroll data to third parties. 

So where is the regulation?  Show us the exact regulation or law that mandates Quickbooks collect the SSN, birthdate and physical address of principal of every company it processes payroll for.   Come on - let's see it.

Tania A
Level 1

Principal Officer Verification - Where's the Actual Law?

I was requested today to make the address change by 09/29/2023 due to said federal compliance. Did you change to a physical address? I'm wondering if failing to make the change will really result in no Direct Deposits. I find this ridiculous, they are giving us 4 days notice to a change of huge impact, it is hard to believe it. 

 

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