2023 quickbooks PAP Premier Software Bundle

Allow me to share some information regarding the changes in QuickBooks ProAdvisor prices, Sue0909.  

Our price increases are in line with the industry standards. The new pricing plans will reflect the needs of our clients better while allowing us to keep improving the service and developing new features.

To get more details about the price increase, you can go through the following pointers below. These will provide you the new pricing lineup as well as the new and improved features in QuickBooks ProAdvisor:

• Announcing changes to QuickBooks products and pricing + QuickBooks Desktop FAQs 
• Upcoming changes to QuickBooks products and pricing

In case you need the best recommendation on how we can help you choose the right fit, you can get in touch with our QuickBooks Sales Team. They can check if there's any available promotion for QuickBooks ProAdvisor and discuss the prices privately. 

Let me know if you have any other questions. I'll be here to answer your next posts. Take care.

Thank you, Aileen. However, I was looking for the specific benefits added to the Desktop package, given the large annual membership price increase. I am a QB ProAdvisor and use QB desktop for my clients. I much prefer Desktop to QB Online and I do know that I am not alone in that opinion. I attended the Webinar in June, but I was hoping for a more comprehensive listing (specific to us, QuickBooks ProAdvisors and Desktop-users).

I appreciate your prompt reply, @Sue0909.

I've come to share the improvements and benefits included in the ProAdvisor bundle subscription changes.

With the upcoming changes to the QuickBooks products prices, we made improvements to the performance overhaul (64-bit enhanced computing power), multiple time-saving automation features (Receipt/Bill entries), and security enhancements. Also, you'll benefit from the addition of a new cash flow hub, which helps improve visibility into cash flow by monitoring inflows and outflows in a single dashboard.

You may want to read this announcement to know more about the changes: Firm of the Future FAQs.

Thank you for being a valued partner, @Sue0909. If you need more information about this price increase, don't hesitate to reply below.

Thank you, Mark. I had already reviewed the FOTF website for any available information.

If you are a QBDT user, you recall that, ever year – most years – there were additional features added to the software. Perhaps the new feature "multiple time-saving automation features" will be value-added, although, because I use QB Accountant DT, I already have the ability to batch-enter transactions bills, invoices, deposits, and checks.

I am trying to justify the price tag of $799 (compared to last years $484.92). If I no longer subscribe, will I still have access to the previous versions of QuickBooks Accountant Desktop already downloaded to my PC? (2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016)

I'd like to jump in and help with your question about accessing old QuickBooks, Sue0909.

After canceling your ProAdvisor membership, any software before your last renewal will remain active and available for you to use. This means that you can still access the old versions of QuickBooks if you are using legacy or stand-alone licenses. These types of licenses have three years support cycle and do not belong to the Plus series.

However, you will no longer receive new versions of QuickBooks. Desktop ProAdvisor benefits will also end such as certifications and support as well. Please see this article for more details: QuickBooks Desktop Cancelation Policies.

I also recommend reaching out to our support teams for ProAdvisor for more details about your subscription. Here's an article on how to reach out to them: Contact QuickBooks Desktop Support.

Let me know if that answers your question about logging in to older versions of the program. I'd be glad to offer my help if you need it again. 

I too was shocked by the price increase.  I called support to try to get an understanding of what benefits were being added to justify paying almost double the price for the QuickBooks ProAdvisor Desktop version.  I spent a great deal of time on hold waiting  for answers after first receiving the generic "new features and benefits" to still receive no concrete information.  I was also told if I switched to the Pro Plus instead of the ProAdvisor package I would no longer be able to import Accountant's copies from my clients.  Very frustrating!  And I agree that the QBO online is not an option for working with many of our clients files.  It just doesn't have the same capability.

Yours may be the most helpful of the answers.  I will be reaching out to change my subscription based on your response.  Thank you!

Thank you for chiming in on this thread, @Bookkeeping-Solutions.

I'm happy to hear that my colleague's response was able to allay your worries about using an older version of QuickBooks.

Know that the Community is always happy to offer you the appropriate solution. So, feel free to drop by and express any questions you have regarding the software or if you need any additional help.

I’d be more than grateful to answer them. Have a good one!

Intuit Executive pay by year (top 5 executives):

2020 61 million

2021 75 million

2022 81 million

Also, this tidy bit of news from August 2022:

Intuit Inc.'s board of directors approved additional share repurchases and an increase to the company's quarterly dividend.

The company said Tuesday that its board authorized $2 billion in share repurchases, giving the company a total authorization of $3.5 billion to repurchase shares.

This is where the money is going, folks.

No, there is no "value added" to the product to justify a 60% price increase.

And, no, this is not "in line with industry standards". There is no industry standard for accounting software. Intuit has a near monopoly and has decided that greed is Priority #1.

I've been in practice for 25 years and there is no other cost that has come even close to QuickBooks in price increases. This is what happens when there is nearly zero competition in the marketplace.

I can also tell everyone right now where this is leading, so be prepared. Intuit is going to kill off QB Desktop entirely or, at the very least, further change the pricing model to practically force everyone to QBO. The goal is to take all those individual QB Desktop files you use for client bookkeeping and make you pay literally 600 to 800 bucks per year each for a QBO file with no discounts. Intuit absolutely refuses to leave any money on the table.

If you don't think they'll do it, remember that Intuit is the company that killed off its IRS Free File program after the IRS stopped them from fraudulently charging customers for a "free" return. It's a pattern.

I'm not sure how much longer I'll be practicing but I sure hope Intuit leaves me a little money for retirement. They clearly have no hesitation in crushing the very customers that have been helping them sell their products for 3 decades.

For now, I guess I have to budget over 20 grand to software costs this upcoming year. It would be nice to give that to employees that are facing higher inflation but I guess I'll just have to tell them about all the "new features" coming to QB this year!

100% agree

I couldn't agree more! Maybe its time for a letter-writing campaign to the board members of Intuit. If they would cut their January advertising of their more-inferior products by 1/1000th of a percent, they'd have more than enough to keep QBDT competitive, current, and affordable for the professional users. 

Couldn't agree more. QB has been a necessary adversary. However, their current pricing structure appears to further squeeze accountants and bookkeepers out of the game so that our clients transition over to them. It's time to seek other accounting software and payroll solutions, like Payroll Mate, Fresh Books, etc. I can't continue to justify handing money over to a company that is making it harder for me to make a profit. 

@Jamiemcpa 

If you are working solo on a desktop (PC or Mac) to manage your book and only need basic features, you should explore a free program. You can use the program for as long as you like, use all the features and enter as much data as required. There are no time limits, no usage limits, no ads (at this time). This program is quite popular in Asia and Europe.

@MyProEdge   Well said.  It sickens me to give Intuit any more of our company's money. I've been a user for over 13 years.  The previous stand alone desktop version was a good value for the money.  But no more. Greed is their byline now. 

Their website lead line is “Powering Prosperity Around the World”  while boasting $12.7 Billion in revenue for 2022.  Looks like 2023 will be over $20 B.  And the only "prosperity”  they care about is their own.

I agree, price increase is outrageous!! No significant improvements, put up with this for years (claims of improvements, etc), but now that they're increasing the price 40%! NO!! I'm sure now that they've gone subscription the price will continue to go up. Holding Pro Advisors hostage to their greediness!!

The price of my bundle went up 36% in one year! When I called and questioned it, I was told it was because the company was loosing revenue in Europe because they did away with desktop and went 100% with QBO. That is the thanks we get for being loyal desktop users - so wrong!

My cost would have gone up 45.5% at my renewal on 3/23, but I discontinued the PAP bundle.  

I have been using Quickbooks in some capacity since 1989.

I will continue to use it personally, as I have many versions downloaded, but since I am losing my one client that I do monthly work for, it is NOT REASONABLE to continue this product.

Thanks for nothing, Intuit,

what's the name of the program?

@hg1234 

Explore this one

https://www.manager.io/

Then to pay your bills for free by ACH, you can signup for a Melio account for free. One perk for the month, you will get a $100 cashback from them to successfully complete your first payment on the platform of at least $200 with a credit card.

https://affiliates.meliopayments.com/pricing

Hope it helps.

Hello Sue, I prefer desktop also, but do have some clients in QBO.

The thing is, my desktop clients will not switch, and I do not blame them.  If anything ever does happen to make a switch necessary, they will switch completely out.

I saved my (10) user Enterprise from going to NetSuite just last month, buying at least one more year. 

They are very unhappy about the loss of the scanner plug in, as they travel extensively. Even though paid, to the tune of 5K plus per year, they will not install past 2021. Next year is the deadline for 2021.

My Enterprise Pro Advisor bundle, with payroll, is renewing next month, and the increase is almost 500.00.

I also am trying to find out what the benefits are that made an increase like that fair.

I mean, the whole thing is subscription now, and the scanner is gone, on top of everything else.

Personally, I will not go past 2022 and have my books stuck if I am unable to continue paying this when I retire.

I will keep searching.

Good luck to you.

Mary

I stopped updating my current copy of QuickBooks with the 2021 version. It is the last version I could buy and own. I can and will continue to use it until either it or I die.  As you know you can always continue to use a legacy version of Quickbooks with the only caveat being no support and no updates. Often, updates have to do with security issues which can be handled through virus protection, etc.  

As for the sharp rise in pricing, I can only attribute that to taking advantage of the situation and greed. Those traits have been with use since we’ve existed and will continue until all of us are history. I am lucky in that I’m close to retirement and can chuck it all except for my personal account; if necessary, I can always return to the spreadsheet.

I am sorry that what we thought was a good partner with us in our accounting businesses turned out to be just another vendor who wants money. 

I just learned that when you don't pay the new price of $799 (up 40% in 2023) intuit removes the incorporate accountants changes from all the past software you've already paid for, even those that are not subscription (2021 and before)!! Intuit's management is a bunch of greedy sob's! I'm going to switch my clients out of quickbooks. These people are predators'!

And this is the 3rd call about this issue and NONE of the other support people told me this!!%$%$@$

Load of BS! 

I just learned that when you don't pay the new price of $799 (up 40% in 2023) intuit removes the incorporate accountants changes from all the past software you've already paid for, even those that are not subscription (2021 and before)!! Intuit's management is a bunch of SOB's! I'm going to switch my clients out of quickbooks. These people are predators'!

And this is the 3rd call about this issue and NONE of the other support people told me this!!%$%$@$

I thought that last year 2022 I purchased 2023 PAP and I now I get an email telling me to go and download PAP 2023 again at a cost of 799 plus my payroll of 700 - total of 1499 plus tax!!!!! What am I paying for??? Will QB 23 desktop be good for EVER??? Is there no QB 24???