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wak0511
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

I match inbound payment transaction to outstanding invoice but still get undefined online banking matches message on payments. The payments remain in Undeposited Funds.
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Catherine_B
QuickBooks Team

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Hello there, wak0511.

 

If you're using QuickBooks Payments, it's possible that the account you selected where to deposit your payments is the Undeposited Funds. You'll want to select a bank account where payments are deposited.

 

You can check out these articles for more details: 

 

Let me know if you need more help. Take care!

wak0511
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

The payments are matched to invoices and but not removing themselves from undeposited funds appropriately.  Usually it shows in and and out of UD so that account stays at zero. It keeps growing with this issue.

Jen_D
Moderator

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Thanks for posting here, @wak0511,

 

If you're using QuickBooks Payments, the system will auto-assign the customer payments into the Undeposited Funds account. 

 

In order to match it to the online banking entries, you'll need to create a bank deposit. This process will move the funds to the register and zero out the UF balance. 

 

Here's how:

  1. Select + New.
  2. Select Bank Deposit.
  3. From the Account ▼ dropdown, choose the account you want to put the money into.This image shows a normal bank deposit screen with a number of deposits on the page.
  4. Select the checkbox for each transaction you want to combine.
  5. Make sure the total of the selected transactions matches your deposit slip. Use your deposit slip as a reference.
  6. Select Save and close or Save and new.

However, if this isn't the case for you, I recommend contacting our Support Team to get further assistance. They can look into your account and help ensure you're able to match everything appropriately.

 

To reach us on time, our Live Help are available from 6:00 AM to 6:00 PM on weekdays and 6:00 AM til 3:00 PM on Saturdays. Follow these steps to get a live representative:

 

  1. Go to the Help menu then select Contact us.
  2. Enter the keyword Account Management and Billing in the What can we help you with? box.
  3. On the next screen, scroll down to the Choose a way to connect with us section.
  4. Choose Start messaging to initiate a discussion with a live agent or Get a call for callbacks.
  5. When using the messaging option, make sure to enable pop-up windows. The chat box will appear at the bottom right section of your monitor, and an agent will be with you after filling in the information needed. See this:

When you're connected, provide all the information about your concern or request a viewing session with out representative.

 

I want to know how it goes, so I can make sure this is resolved. Just add another comment below and I'll be right here to help. Have a good one!

Jenny0212
Level 1

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Hi, I have a client who's PayPal account is sync in QBO, we also do the matching but upon checking the transactions, it still shows "undefined online banking matches". Other bank accounts are matched and shows "online banking matches". Please help. Thank you

Rubielyn_J
QuickBooks Team

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Thanks for joining this thread, @Jenny0212. Let me add some information about undefined online banking matches status in QuickBooks.

 

To begin, make sure to select a bank account where payments are deposited. If you're using QuickBooks Payment, customer payments will be assigned automatically to the Undeposited Funds account. What you have to do is to change it to a specific bank account. 

 

Also, Unspecified Online banking matches are transactions that are not QuickBooks matches but are instead Banking matches. In other words, these are payments coming from the bank, so once you update your bank account on the Banking tab inside QuickBooks Online, these payments will be posted on the For review section that you'll need to match from the previous transaction you have inside the banking register.

 

To review transactions in QuickBooks, please follow the steps below: 

 

  1. Find a downloaded transaction with the Match option in the Action column.
  2. Note the DateDescriptionPayee, and amount spent or received.
  3. Click the downloaded transaction to expand the view.
  4. Examine the Matching records found in QuickBooks. 
  5. Select the link next to each match to get more details.
  6. Make sure this is the correct match. In particular, review the Deposit toPayment method, and Bank account fields on forms for the existing transaction in QuickBooks.
  7. If this is the correct match, close the open transaction.
  8. Click ​Match​.

 

For more details, please see this article: Categorize and match online bank transactions in QuickBooks Online. It also covers some ideas on how to split transactions between multiple accounts and exclude duplicate transactions.

 

Moreover, let me share this link to help you reconcile your accounts so they always match bank and credit card statements. 

 

Keep me posted if you have other questions about managing banking transactions in QuickBooks. I'll be happy to assist you again. Have a great day.

WeaponzOnline
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Hello!

I have the same issue as mentioned by jenni on the paypal bank. I have noticed it will no longer show the green MATCH button like your picture for transactions that require a match to a sale receipt thats already in the register.

In order to match, I must:

- click the transaction to see details

- click "find match"

- search for match"
- make sure all the dates, names are correct

- click save

 

This will "match" the transaction to the sale receipt, but when the matched sale receipt is view, it will show "undefined online banking match", with no details about what it was matched too. Ever since the green MATCH button stopped appearing for sale receipts and a search was required (still shows MATCH for transfers/deposits/other transactions), that is also when all the paypal processing fees started appearing in the undeposited funds account instead of the paypal register like they used to.

- Thomas

Angelyn_T
Moderator

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

I appreciate you for joining the thread, @WeaponzOnline. I'm here to share with you some information about matching transactions on the Banking page.

 

The Match button is available under the Action column when the system automatically finds a match for your banking entries. If not, the transactions may be affected by the date of record or different amounts due to processing fees. In this case, you can tap on the Find Match tab, then match the transactions manually. 

 

  1. Select the bank transaction.
  2. Tap on Find Match.
  3. Choose the transactions to match from the Match transactions window.
  4. Hit the Save button.

 

If there are fees added, you can resolve the difference by clicking on the button in between Resolve and Difference. For additional resources, you can check out this link: Resolve the difference in a matched transaction.

 

I'm also adding this article for more hints about categorizing your downloaded banking transactions: Categorize and match online bank transactions in QuickBooks Online.

 

If you have any other follow-up questions about your banking or PayPal transactions, please let me know by adding a comment below. I'm more than happy to help. Wishing you a good one!

WeaponzOnline
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Hello!

The resolve and difference feature is not the fix, as the transactions match the sale receipts properly. However, once it is saved, the match is split into the sales receipt and the added paypal processing fee. The sales receipt stays in the paypal register because thats where it was already created/saved. The paypal processing fee is not added to quickbooks until the transaction is matched to a sale receipt. It is intended to be added to the paypal register to balance the account out properly, but instead goes to the undeposited funds account. This appears to have started around January/February of 2021.

This cause many issues, and the paypal account can not be reconciled, and the fees that are put into undeposited funds can not have the account changed without un-matching them (and if it cold I would have to do its 1000s of times due to the number of matches). Unmatching them should make the fee and match status go away, but for some reason it not, and it duplicates the sales receipt and processing fees if they are re-matched.

- Thomas

 

FritzF
Moderator

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

I appreciate you getting back to us, @WeaponzOnline.

 

Allow me to chime in and help make sure that you're able to match bank transactions in QuickBooks Online (QBO).

 

Since the issue persists after trying the steps shared by my colleague above, I highly suggest contacting our Support team. They have tools such as screen-sharing (remote access) that can pull up your account in a secure environment and check the cause of this odd behavior. They can also perform other troubleshooting steps if necessary.

 

Here's how to reach them:

 

  1. In QBO, click the Help (question mark) icon at the top right.
  2.  Select a suggested option, or type a question or topic (i.e Match bank transactions).
  3. Select Contact Us and choose a way to connect with us.

 

In case you need, I'm also adding these articles that tackle matching and reconciling bank transactions in QBO for future reference:

 

 

Keep me posted on how the call goes. I'll be here should you have any follow-up questions or concerns. Have a good one.

wak0511
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

I am not using Quickbooks Payments for these transactions.

wak0511
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Screen share and 4 phone calls have produced no helpful results.  Not one person from QBO support can help me with this issue.  3 out of 4 phone calls ended with me being disconnected as if "oh well."  from the agent.

WeaponzOnline
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

It's best to find your own work around, QB wont be fixing it anytime soon. Most reps barely understand how quickbooks works, especially the screen share and phone rep (one told me to talk to the developer of the QB paypal app (hint, it's quickbooks!). Then there are the rest of who like you said "lose connection" when they realize it's complicated.

My workaround:
I no longer match sales transactions that come in through paypal into QB. I exclude them all, but this is only because my shipping software (ShipStation) can also sync sales receipts into QB. Not a perfect system, but its easiest method I have right now. This allows the sales tax to be properly recorded (paypal does not always send detailed transacitons over when it syncs sales transactions).

 

Then when I reconcile the account I compare it to the transaction statement report that I get off paypal. I used to think the green "matched" box mattered, but it really doesnt as long as your register matches your paypal statement and it closes out properly.

WeaponzOnline
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

It's best to find your own work around, QB wont be fixing it anytime soon. Most reps barely understand how quickbooks works, especially the screen share and phone rep (one told me to talk to the developer of the QB paypal app (hint, it's quickbooks!). Then there are the rest of who like you said "lose connection" when they realize it's complicated.

My workaround:
I no longer match sales transactions that come in through paypal into QB. I exclude them all, but this is only because my shipping software (ShipStation) can also sync sales receipts into QB, avoiding the need for the transactions from paypal. Not a perfect system, but its easiest method I have right now. This allows the sales tax to be properly recorded (paypal does not always send detailed transacitons over when it syncs sales transactions).

 

Then when I reconcile the account I compare it to the transaction statement report that I get off paypal. I used to think the green "matched" box mattered, but it really doesnt as long as your register matches your paypal statement and it closes out properly.

Benj_Acuña
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Turns out this issue 1st occurred nearly a year ago and yet it's still an issue.

 

I first encountered it few months ago on matched transactions in under Paypal account but still showing as "undefined online banking matches" when the transaction is viewed.

AileneA
Moderator

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Hello, Benj_Acuña. 

 

We'll go ahead and sort things out by doing some basic troubleshooting steps. The stored cache can sometimes cause unusual browser behavior. 

 

Let's log in to your QuickBooks Online company using a private window. Here are the keyboard shortcuts in opening a private/incognito window: 

 

  • Google Chrome: Ctrl + Shift + N
  • Internet Explorer: Ctrl + Shift + P
  • Mozilla Firefox: Ctrl + Shift + P
  • Safari: Command + Option + P

 

Once done, you can now start matching your transactions. Here's how:

 

  1. From the left pane, select Banking.
  2. Tap the tile for the account you want to review.
  3. Press the For Review tab to start your review.
  4. In the Action Column, find a downloaded transaction by clicking the Find Match option.
  5. Select Match.

 

If you can match the transactions completely, you'll have to clear your regular browser cache.  

 

If the same thing happens, I recommend reaching out to a member of the QuickBooks Support Team. Agents have specialized tools, such as screen-sharing, that would be particularly helpful in this situation. Please refer to this article to contact our support team: QuickBooks Online Support.

 

You can always get back to us by leaving a comment on this thread. We're already ready to help with any QuickBooks and banking concerns you have. Stay safe.

edfcdfdv
Level 2

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

Because the account the transaction was originally deposited to was deleted or has been disabled/made invisible.

SteveTreasurer
Level 3

Why are payments coming in as undefined online banking matches?

I just noticed this issue yesterday. 30 minutes with phone support makes me think that QB knows this is an issue but doesn't know how to fix. Thanks for the workarounds.

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