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Ok--first let me say we use QB Desktop payroll and this is the first time since FFCRA was enacted we are paying an employee for National Paid Leave for their being gone due to covid and this is AFTER April 1, 2021 and I have NOT paid the employees yet--upcoming next week.
I went step thru step on the "track Paid leave...for coronavirus" Step 1--all good. Step 2 I set up the other expense account. THen step 3 I first see ""once you set up your liability and expense accounts, you will need to setup payroll items to track..." Where did I miss the setting up of liability accounts????? Please see below as an exact copy from website:
Step 3: Set up payroll items
Once you set up your liability and expense accounts, you need to set up payroll items to track each type of paid leave found under the FFCRA that you identified in step 1.
My question is where did i miss the setting up of liability accounts??? Step 2 only had me set up and expense acoount? Do I need new liability accounts for company paid share of social security tax and medicare tax since they are also eligible for the credit (wages and company ss&medi eligible for credit) or will quickbooks do the work for me on calculating credit amount for both wages and company taxes since the wage went to the "National Leave ARPA-Emp" tax tracking type??
Not sure why steps say "once you have set up your liability and expense accounts" when there is no step to setup any additional or new liability accounts. Please help ASAP. Payroll is Monday.
I went onto step 3 adding the Payroll item applicable to National Paid Leave Employee. All good. THen Leave FMLA and Health Premium not applicable to our situation. THen I get to "National Paid Leave & Medicare Credit" and I am uncertain if this this is supposed to be being done for us since under ARPA eligible for credit on company SS & Medicare but if so why does it only say Medicare? Or do those instructions have to do with the old FFCRA Before ARPA added?
I confirmed the "National Paid Leave Credit Tax Item" is setup up after I did step 3 but I have no idea if my company share of SS & Medicare going to go here? Also within item 6 of step 4, after selecting ageny i pay, it says to Select "COVID 19 Expenses" in the liability account dropdown. When did any of these steps tell me to setup a "Covid 19 expenses" as a liability account??
I can share some information about tracking paid leave and sick time to comply with the FFCRA and ARPA, @J Myers.
You no longer need to create a liability account. Once you set up the liability/expense accounts, you can now create payroll items to track each type of paid leave found under the FFCRA.
To know more on how to set up your paid leave and sick time to comply with the Family First Coronavirus Response Act (FFCRA) and the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), see this article for detailed guidance: How to track paid leave and sick time for the coronavirus.
I also suggest leaving feedback about this article, just click on the No button under the Was this helpful? option in the article. Enter your suggestion in the box and click on Submit.
Once done, you can now process or run a regular payroll: How do I create a paycheck for an employee?. To ensure you’ve been tracking the leave correctly, you can review your payroll reports, refer to this article for detailed guidance: How to claim your tax credits under the Family First Coronavirus Response Act.
Stay in touch if you need more help in setting up your payroll items. Just let me know in the Reply section below. I'm always here to assist. Take care and have a great rest of the day!
Well being as you again use the term expense/liability in your response.
You no longer need to create a liability account. Once you set up the liability/expense accounts, you can now create payroll items to track each type of paid leave found under the FFCRA.
You say you do not have to set up liability account and then you say "once you set p the liability/expense accounts". Which is it? Does QB know what a liability accounts vs an expense account? I am sorry but I have read all the threads all the articles--even told you within my question what articles I got my info from and still you resent me to same article. I am so frustrated.
Thanks for returning to this conversation, @J Myers. I'm here to give further details about this.
You only need to create an expense account in tracking the paid leave. This is where you keep a record of the wages that are eligible for tax credits later on. Next, set up the payroll items to monitor the paid leave. After that, you can now run your payroll. Check it here for more details: How to track paid leave and sick time for the coronavirus.
For your future reference, I've added this helpful article in case you'll need a guide in claiming your tax credits: How to claim your tax credits under the Family First Coronavirus Response Act.
Should you have any other concerns in setting up your accounts for the paid leave, feel free to post here again. I'm always here to help and ensure your needs are met.
Similar to this question... in the 2nd quarter, I followed the directions for creating a Covid-19 Expense payroll item, etc and when creating the 941 and answering the questions on the first page, the worksheet 3 was generated and wages and FICA taxes were able to be deducted from the 941. This quarter, however, the worksheet 3 is not generating and I am unable to edit Lines 13e and Line 23 on the 941. How do I get the worksheet to appear and/or how do I edit those line items so that the wages and FICA paid due to covid vaccine related illness/time off can be deducted from the 941?
I can help you with generating Worksheet 3 for 941 and provide more information about Lines 13e and 23, @Lilalykat.
To generate Worksheet 3, I suggest downloading the most recent tax table to ensure compliance with paycheck calculations and full functionality of payroll updates.
Then, update QuickBooks Desktop to the latest release. It will make maintenance releases and product upgrades to fix known issues, add new features and enhancements, and update compliance information.
Here's how you get the most recent payroll tax table update:
To manually update:
Restart your computer after the installation is complete. Then, generate your worksheet 3.
Please see these articles for more information and a visual guide in updating your QuickBooks Desktop:
About Line 13e, QuickBooks calculates this number by adding lines 13a, 13b, 13c, and 13d. Line 23 is currently unsupported. I suggest checking with your accountant on how to handle this in QBDT. You can check this article for more information on how QuickBooks populates the 941.
Here's a guide that can guide you on how to prepare and print your forms in QBDT: Learn how to prepare and print Form 941, Schedule B, and Form 940.
I'm always here if you need further help in preparing your worksheet. Take care and have a great rest of the day!
Thank you @MJoy_D for the prompt response. I believe I have the latest tax table version 22116. I have my system set to automatically update and am currently running v.31.0.4006.0, yet when I generate the form 941, the Worksheet 3 does not appear despite entering values on line A, B or C of the interview page, therefore, the values do not flow to line 13e.
I am confused when you say 13e is the sum of 13a, 13b, 13c and 13d - that isn't what it shows on the form. The form defines it as the "Refundable portion of credit for qualified sick and family leave wages for leave taken before after March 31, 2021" (which actually doesn't make sense because it says before after, but I believe it means "after March 31"). This is not a summary line, but rather a line where we would enter the Refundable Portion of Credit for Qualified Sick Wages.
You mention that Line 23 is currently unsupported, yet when I printed the Worksheet 3 for Q2, Step 2 says "Figure the sick and family leave credit" and on line 2a, it says "Qualified sick leave wages for leave taken after March 31, 2021 (Form 941, Part 3, Line 23)", so to me, it is clearly supported since it is referenced in the Worksheet.
But like I said, I can't even get Worksheet 3 to show so I am unable to enter the qualified sick leave wages on any part of the 941.
Thank you
Thank you for your response, Lilalykat.
In this case, I recommend contacting our QuickBooks Desktop Payroll Support. That way, they can use a screen-sharing tool to see your setup and explain the figures while you're looking on the same page, and to find out why you're unable to see your Worksheet. They are open on weekdays from 6 AM to 6 PM PT.
If you have other questions, feel free to comment below.
I too am having the same issue with form 941. Did you find a resolution to the issue? QBs Payroll Desktop support said I needed to update the software, but I had the latest versions. Beyond that, they did not have any answers.
I know this hasn't been an easy process for you, vp15.
Let me make it up to you by making sure you'll get an accurate solution to resolve the issue of your Form 941.
I understand that you've contacted our support team, but I would still recommend reaching out to them again. They have full access to your account and can determine its main cause to ensure it won't happen again to you or to other customers.
To ensure that you'll be assisted on time, please see this article: Contact Payroll Support.
Additionally, I've added these articles that'll help you stay informed about managing your Form 941:
I'm only a post away if you need more help in completing your other payroll-related tasks in QuickBooks, vp15. It's always my priority to ensure your needs are met.
Has not been resolved. I will need to submit manually
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